What would you grade this Morgan?

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  1. mackat

    mackat Well-Known Member

    P1030596.JPG P1030595.JPG Hi,

    I have had this for a long time, it came from the Southern California First National Bank. My Grandma used to work there, and they gave them to employees in 1975. Just tonight I took it out of the beat-up cardboard and put it in a nice Air-Tite. I think the toning's really pretty. What grade would you give it?

    Thanks!
    Ben
     
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  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    That cheek is really rough, MS61
     
  4. BoneDust

    BoneDust Active Member

    I would say About Uncirculated 55 due to the rough cheek, abrasions, and wear on the hair above the ear.
     
  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Looks like one of the standard MS-61 Morgans from GSA.
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If those are (vertical) scratches across Liberty.......AU Details - Scratched.

    Chris
     
  8. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    AU 55. Don't see it as uncirculated. As far as details grade, it is hard to tell--there are scratches. The picture doesn't detail how bad they are as it is too small without enlarging, and distorts them too much when it is enlarged.
     
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

  10. mackat

    mackat Well-Known Member

    Where do you see scratches? They may be on the air-title, as I don't see any. Thank you for the helpful responses!
     
  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    In the extreme close up you provided, there are hairlines on the cheek and hair of the obverse.
     
  12. mackat

    mackat Well-Known Member

    Ok, those may be on the case though. I'll see if I can scan the bare coin tonight. Thank you for the help!
     
  13. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    For now I'll stick with MS-61 -- a VERY baggy coin.
     
  14. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I'm going to say weak struck MS61. I don't have my Morgan book handy, so I don't know if that year was known for strike issues. If the year/mint was a strong strike one, I'd say AU53. That's a LOT of bag marks, and even if it's not "supposed" to affect circulation grades, I think it's enough on eye appeal to drop it from AU55 to AU53.
     
  15. mackat

    mackat Well-Known Member

    I just scanned both sides. Does this help?
     

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  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    1883 Morgan Dollar Obv.jpg 1883 Morgan Dollar Rev.jpg



    I resized these for you as a coherent image in Photoshop--it was way too large from the scan. Based on these photos, I would say it is a fairly baggy MS Morgan, that is a nice looking coin. It is well struck (look at eagle's breast and hair), but doesn't exhibit much luster--that is probably from the scan. I would go with MS 61 based on the improved images. I stand corrected from what I said previously, based on normal sized images--this coin would grade, and not a details coin, nor is it circulated.
     
  18. mackat

    mackat Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much for the resizing my photos and the in-depth commentary. I'm happy to hear that it's not a details coin and that it's MS. The lack of luster is from the scan, in person it's quite a beautiful coin. Thanks again!
     
  19. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Remember the rule:
    Rule #1) Take the coin OUT of the holder before taking pictures.
    Rule #2: See Rule #1.
     
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