Rotated Dies

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  1. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    What is the allowable limit according to mint specifications?
     
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  3. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    anything after 15 degrees is an error
     
  4. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Is that an actual factual mint spec?
     
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  7. tgaw

    tgaw Member

    were can you get that info at?i thought that rotation amount affects worth meaning the more rotated the more it is worth,but a small rotation is still an error.
     
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  10. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Actually, that is incorrect...it clearly states that the mint error margin is less than 8 degrees. It states that rotation errors aren't considered COLLECTABLE until they reach 15 degrees or more. So a die rotated 9 degrees is considered an error...it just won't command a premium.
    Knowing the sales of rotated dies, I can say that they generally don't command a significant premium until about 90 degrees rotated on normal coinage (older coinage, such as coins struck in the 1800s, may command stronger premiums because of their age)
     
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  11. tgaw

    tgaw Member

    thanks for info as I am not a true error collector,but I love information.
     
  12. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    So then I can take 18 degrees, and sit on it and rotate :(
     
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  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It's just a list of some of the dates and mints known with rotated dies (probably those with some of the largest rotations) and how rotated they are.
     
  15. tommy cent

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  16. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Something to mention. For those that are really into rotated die errors....older coins with rotated dies, like half cents, large cents and indian cents are more common than modern day rotated die coins. It has to do with how they keyed (or didn't) the dies into the coining presses.

    Earlier series of coins were not keyed well in the presses and if they became loose, a die could rotate fairly easily.

    Modern coins have dies with keys (raised areas) that essentially lock the die in place when the die is installed in the coining press.

    In the overall scheme of things, a rotated die on a Statehood quarter, for example could be much more rare as a type coin than a rotated die error on an indian head cent.

    Consequently, older rotated die coins can be found for lesser premiums than you might have to pay for a modern rotated die error.

    As an example, in my years as a collector, I've seen dozens of Indian head cents that exhibit degrees of rotated dies. I have seen only one genuine rotated die on a Kennedy half.
     
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  17. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    Thanks
     
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