Hutt River Province Principality coins.

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What about Grand Fenwick, they even won their war against the U.S. in the mid-fifties....

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Monegasque History.

De Orc, you have forgotten these events;

2002 : Monaco adopts a new Constitution,which declares Monaco to be fully independent from France & giving the ruling Prince the right to decide the succession to the Monegasque throne.

2005 : Prince Rainer III dies & is succeeded by his son,Crown Prince Albert who becomes Prince Albert II.

Aidan.

 

Ah! ... as opposed to those who evolved right there from fish.

(My daughter lives in Miami. She said the same thing you did: Keys people are not friendly to new residents. She went there first, then backtracked to Miami to settle in and settle down. That leads to another somewhat involved story which is funny if you are Catholic... She lives in Miami, right? Immigrants from all over, but mostly from the Caribbean of course. Meanwhile, we are living in northern Michigan amid some older relatives and one guy's Dad was in the Yukon Gold Rush and privately published an autobiography. So, we xeroxed it and sent it to our daughter. Next time we talk on the phone, she asks, "How did Uncle Bill get educated by Dominicans?")

 

I got a Minerva coin for a wedding present!

As for the Strauss book:
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_300.html
A COUNTRY OF ONE'S OWN: A FOLLOW-UP
To the Teeming Millions:

Regarding my column on how to start your own country, a reader has chastised me for not mentioning the 1984 book by that title written by Erwin Strauss and distributed by Loompanics Unlimited, an outfit that also peddles sells such gems as Human Sacrifice in History and Today and Ragnar's Guide to Home and Recreational Use of High Explosives. Strauss describes successful new countries such as Sealand, founded in the 60s by former pirate radio operator Paddy Roy "Prince Roy" Bates on an abandoned antiaircraft platform off the coast of England. He also mentions the smallest country in existence, the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, whose realm consists of one building in Rome. So there's hope for you would-be potentates.

Strauss describes five routes to nationhood:

(1) Traditional sovereignty. This is the approach I mentioned in my column. You need territory, people, and a government, and you have to defend it against all comers. Strauss takes this pretty seriously. Readers who do likewise may wish to obtain his other book, Basement Nukes, priced to move at $8.95 (no kidding). If that sounds a bit drastic, you might check out another book from Loompanics, Uninhabited Ocean Islands, by Jon Fisher.

(2) Ship under flag of convenience. Register your tub with a see-no-evil outfit like Liberia (well, maybe not Liberia these days, but you know what I mean), and for all practical purposes you're independent, and mobile too. Not exactly sovereignty, but maybe close enough.

(3) Litigation. Sue the *******s and make them recognize you, or at least let you alone. It worked for Roy Bates in England, but I wouldn't try it in Iraq.

(4) "Vonu." A coined term basically meaning out of sight, out of mind. Slip off into the forest where the gummint can't find you and establish your own society. The favored region for this seems to be the Pacific Northwest. Fine if you can stand the giant slugs.

(5) Model country. That's model as in pretend. Declare your bungalow a sovereign state, issue stamps, fly your own flag--the "real" government won't care so long as you pay your taxes and otherwise cooperate with your oppressors. Maybe not as spiritually satisfying as traditional sovereignty but you might live longer. Hunger to know more? Write Loompanics Unlimited for a catalog of books on this and related topics at PO Box 1197, Port Townsend, WA 98368.

--CECIL ADAMS

See also --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation
which cites the Strauss book in the bibliography.

 

Great thing about thr flag of covenience method is there's plenty of countries, some that are evern completely landlocked, who will register you ship for a reasonable fee without even looking at it. Bolivia's famous for this (they don't even have a coastline, but they do have a Navy...).

I'd just love to sail under the flag of Mongolia.

 

Hutt River Coinage

I have not had any problems aquiring coins from Hutt River. I've got the complete Desert Storm $500 issue, the $20 Air War Series, Reagan $25, Clinton $5 & $10, $25 Silver Apache Helicopter, Type 1 & 2 U.S Jeep, $25 Liberty Centennial, $25 Automobile Centennial, $10 Supersaurs, $5 D-Day 44mm issue, $5 VJ Day,$20 D-Day, $20 Pearl Harbor, The first 5 $5 Fathers of Baseball, $5 Proof Stealth Fighter, $100 5.994 oz Silver George Washington Inaugural Bicentennial, 1977 5 cent, 1977 20 cent, 1976 through 1978 unc & proof 50 cents. I haven't been able to locate the Orwell, Wholly Dollar, Skylab, Red Robin, H.M.S. ResolutionAmerica's Cup, Seoul Olympics, WW I, or the $5 & $10 WWII issues. I haven't even started on any of the Gold Issues yet and The Princess Diana coin is probably very expensive. So the coins are out there it just having the cash at the right time to buy them. Some sellers are way out of line in their pricing according to any of the guides. I have seen the Desert Storm 45 coin issue go from $15 to $495.00. In fact there is a set on ebay for $295 right now and has been for over a month. Most collectors don't even know that there are proof cupronickel versions out there. You have to read the small print under each coin listing to see if they made any. For some strange reason they didn't make complete sets of proofs or they only made certain others out of silver. When I was looking for the cupronickel versions I kept ending uo with silver versions. Although I picked them up for $4 to $6 I did well but when you are trying to finish a set of one type you can get disappointed.
Well Best Regards to you all,

1991retiredarmy

 

I only have a few bill from this fantasy pricipality...I have looked for coins for sale on e-bay but only found a few and was out bid...dont want to pay a lot...I wouldnt mind getting at least one with Prince Lennys mug on it. Started looking after I read about it in The Unusual World Coin Catalog...then I went to the website...funny stuff.

 

I am surprised that they are so easy to find over there in America,as they are very difficult to find in both Australia & New Zealand.I have asked my Aussie contacts about them,& they usually DON'T have them in stock.They seen to always have the notes,which I already have got.

You will have to start posting pictures of the coins that you've got,as a lot of them are not illustrated in Krause's 'Unusual World Coins' catalogue.

The Princess Diana memorial piece from the Hutt River Province Principality is actually a pattern coin whose design was rejected for some reason.

I have the 1977 commemorative Holey Dollar.The 1978 Holey Dollar is not actually a commemorative in the strict sense,as the Silver Jubilee commemorative inscription was erased from the dies when they were redated.

Aidan.

 

Aidan, this is the first time I'm hearing about this H.R.P.P.. And what about Keeling Cocos? Is it also independant?

 

Biju,the Cocos (Keeling) Islands was originally an autonomous kingdom under the rule of the Clunies-Ross family.For administrative purposes,they were associated with the Straits Settlements & Singapore prior to 1955,when it was transferred to Australian administration.The Cocos (Keeling Islands) monarchy ended in 1978,when Australia stuck its nose in too much.

The Cocos (Keeling) Islands issued notes between 1887 & 1904 denominated in Rupees & Cents (derived from the currency of Ceylon (now Sri Lanka)).A series of tokens was issued in 1913,& in 1968.The only issue of coins under the Cocos (Keeling) Islands monarchy was issued in 1977.I have the bronze 5 Cents.The Cocos (Keeling) Islands began to issue its first Dollars & Cents coins in 2003.

Here's a couple of articles; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutt_River_Province_Principality & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocos_(Keeling)_Islands .

Aidan.