more fakes????

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by jimmy_goodfella, Sep 6, 2004.

  1. jimmy_goodfella

    jimmy_goodfella New Member

    hello this fellow claims to know nothing about coins but has bought couple and showed photo outta the red book.

    tell me does his coins look fake?

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=786&item=3929078438#ebayphotohosting
     
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  3. jimmy_goodfella

    jimmy_goodfella New Member

    i have retracted a bid on one even though ive never done this before ido not trust this seller at all.

    he only accepts money orders/cashier cheques and only 3 feedback looks fake to me /smells fake to me
     
  4. JBK

    JBK Coin Collector

    I thought the portrait looked sort of goofy, and the other coins he has look bad.
     
  5. rbm86

    rbm86 Coin Hoarder

    The coin looks fake to me. The liberty head looks goofy and the letters in "Liberty" on the headdress look elongated. The rims look odd, and it looks "proof-like" in appearance. Per the Redbook, proofs are rare, and worth $165,000 or so, so I doubt a seller with 4 feedbacks has one.

    I'm sure our other users will chime in with additional info.
     
  6. rbm86

    rbm86 Coin Hoarder

    Look at the reverse on the $5 Indian this guy is selling:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3360&item=3928544771

    I doubt if the coin is even gold. Looks like the gold plating has worn off. Some poor sap has bid 56 pounds on the thing. Yikes!!

    Hey Susanlynn9, if we get consensus that these are fakes, who should we report this guy to at Ebay per the ANA/Ebay policies??
     
  7. jimmy_goodfella

    jimmy_goodfella New Member

    the lettering of untied states of america dont look right to me

    infact just looked in the red book the o in of is not the right size

    take a look most definetly a fake
     
  8. jimmy_goodfella

    jimmy_goodfella New Member

  9. jimmy_goodfella

    jimmy_goodfella New Member

    i am going to warn off the potential buyers
     
  10. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Yes, the coin is a fake.
    As a matter of fact, it's not even gold.
    I feel like I must warn you though, if you try to contact the bidders, you risk being suspended from eBay. This would be considered "auction interference".
     
  11. jimmy_goodfella

    jimmy_goodfella New Member

    yeah gotta be carefull

    just would hate to see that cheater take people money

    i wonder if i have an old account somewhere to max out all his auctions
     
  12. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    For whatever good it will do (and even though I do it frequently, I am not fully convinced that it's worth the effort :mad: ), go to http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-coins.html, and scroll down to the bottom of the page, then click on the "Report listing violations or problems with another eBay member in the Coins category." link and it will take you to the form. Be sure you are signed in to eBay before you go there.

    [No action yet on a report I made of a seller offering a coin dated Meiji 48 (claimed to be 1915), even though the Emperor died in Meiji 45 (1912) and 1915 was Taisho 3! :( :mad: :( ]
     
  13. jimmy_goodfella

    jimmy_goodfella New Member

    he words the auction very subtle saying he is not a collector or grader of coins but then thats real funny because his feedback of 4 items bought is for coins

    it would make you laugh if it didint make you cry.


    i reckon this fellow has another account he uses and is doing a quick scam till hes caught

    im getting realy realy sick of these scam merchants on ebay
     
  14. ziggy29

    ziggy29 Senior Member

    Some sellers do that all the time. They sell hundreds of coins, usually fake Trade dollars or some such, and say "I know nothing about coins so all sales are final." Yet they have some bottomless pit, some apparently renewable source, of one fake 1877-S trade dollar or 1871 Seated dollar after another.
     
  15. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    Aside from the coin being fake, I'm more concerned with "all bids and sales are final. No returns, refund, or exchanges. No guarentees." section that he put in super tiny font so that you need a magnifying glass to find it. If he's that adamant about not accepting returns, it makes me think he's running a scam. The 4 feedback that he has could be from friends of his for auctions that weren't even real. A lot of scammers do that.
     
  16. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    Has anyone looked at the other auctions that this seller is running right now? You should see the $5 Gold Indian. I know I've never seen one struck that sharp. I also can't figure out why he's accepting the money in the US, shipping from the US, but does not have the auction listed in USD. Does that make sense to anyone here?
     
  17. jimmy_goodfella

    jimmy_goodfella New Member

    satootoko

    i went and told them, the more ya harras them maybe they will do something about it in the end like hire a coin collector to go around pulling auctions.Thet say the do but thats just lies a guy searching a regular 8 hours a day could near cover every coin even 2 guys or 3 could cover everything.((or woman)sorry ladies)).

    surely they make enough to justify these wages from the coin section alone
     
  18. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I believe the seller is acting as an agent for the person in the UK who has the material.

    This is pretty common. Lots of folks let experienced eBay sellers sell their stuff for them, rather than do it themselves.

    Yes, all the "gold coins" he had up were fakes.
    Did you see how much that worthless piece of brass sold for?

    Of course eBay will take their cut of the profits, and claim benign ignorance.
     
  19. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    Being a Trading Assistant myself, I understand selling for someone else. I didn't think that someone here would have someone overseas sell for them. I know that some of the other sites (UK, Australia, etc) have more free listing days and it is possible to list on those sites while living in a different country. When I thought about it, I thought that might have been what he did. Incidentally, I'm waiting for a call from eBay regarding the Coin Community Watch sometime this week. I already had the initial interview last week. I hope it comes to fruition so maybe then we will be able to make some changes for the better :)
     
  20. jimmy_goodfella

    jimmy_goodfella New Member

    good luck susan

    be good to have one of our own a made man or woman :)


    hope ya get picked to help
     
  21. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    I really hope it works out for all of us - maybe if I'm "one of their own" they'll listen and we all might be able to get some things changed. Obviously, I'm very naive - I still think there's hope :eek:
     
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