Found in Morocco

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  1. inzence

    inzence New Member

    Can someone tell me what this is? Found in an antique shop in Marrakesh.
     

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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    looks like it is a mold for casting coins. very cool.
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  4. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    yea yoda's right its a mold for casting soft coins but its so damaged , can you tell what details e.if any it migh give from the photos.. , I think there for the tokens that go on suries, the foil coins that make chimes
     
  5. inzence

    inzence New Member

    Hm.. So coins for decoration you mean? It has the numbers 1111 on the other part, and same pattern as this side.
     
  6. inzence

    inzence New Member

    I went to a historical museum in Marrakesh, and they got big eyes and told me it was authentic. Other than that, I don't know. The English wasn't the best from their part. And a nother guy told me the side you see was authentic, and the other part wasn't.
     
  7. inzence

    inzence New Member

    This is some French artifact I found in the same boutique. Can 'you' tell me something about this? It has the inscription "Ville de Rosendael"
     

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  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Well the six-pointed star is generally associated with Judaism - the Star of David. So probably some sort of religious tokens were made from the mold. I don't know what "authentic" would mean in this context, but the mold certainly looks like it's been well-used. The deposits appear to be leftover slag that's hardened into the recesses.
     
  9. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Older Moroccan coins have that six pointed star and a design that looks similar.
     
  10. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Five pointed stars are extremely common in Muslim countries included Morocco, each point represents a pillar of Islam, not so sure about the six pointed star thought.
     
  11. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Here's an example: Moroccan_4_Falus_Coin_(AH_1290).jpg
     
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  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I wonder it they switched to a 5-pointed star in order to differentiate from the Star of David. The current Morroccan flag also has a 5-pointed star.

    But given the lack of inscription on the mold, I still think it would have been used to make religious, or possibly patriotic, or as has been suggested already, ornamental tokens.
     
  13. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    If you do a Google search for "Morocco coins" and look at the images, you can see there are a lot of different combinations of five and six stars, sometimes the five inside the six. I don't know the significance myself.

    I also doubt that mold was for coins though. Doesn't seem like a very efficient way to mass produce them, and it looks pretty crude.
     
  14. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    it looks like a medal.
     
  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's actually very quick and efficient, if you're willing to settle for weak pieces. You don't need to cast blanks or adjust them - just pour the metal into the mold, let it cool, then break off the coins. The technique was used occasionally in the ancient world.

    The problem is, as the metal cools, it contracts, and distorts the devices on the coin. Cast coins never have the level of detail you find in struck ones. It appears the one you posted is just such an example.
     
  16. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    Better pics of the other part of the mold would help but I agree that it looks like it was made to cast older moroccans coins...
    2falus.JPG
     
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