Is This NT Or AT ??

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by zachfromnj, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

    Coin looks pretty gray when you look at it straight on but once you alter lighting etc the colors really POP

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm inclined to say NT. Coins stored in those kind of holders are pretty well known for some nice toning now n then.
     
  4. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Market acceptable.
     
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  5. Camreno

    Camreno Active Member

    True to the above comment, but its not hard for somebody to buy a coin and place it in one of those holders real fast. The coin looks like the one that guy sells on ebay with the super fake toning. He uses electro Magnetics.
     
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  7. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

    I needed a tenth coin to send to Anacs for their special so this can be it.

    Its worth the $11.90 to have it graded so why not.
     
  8. Camreno

    Camreno Active Member

    Yeah, let us know what they say!
     
  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I say AT , but it's close . But if it's hard to photograph it might be NT . Also Doug has seen a lot more of these than I have so I'll bow to his expertise .
     
  10. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I just looked at the reverse picture, and that seems questionable.
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Is the coin as lacking in luster as the photos seem to show? I do not think natural toning interference layers can produce the indicated colors without a good 'sawtooth' surface and the luster it should produce. I say AT or market unacceptable.
     
  12. Danr

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  13. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    I tend to agree with what Doug posts (as in this case)
     
  14. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

    gotta wait a few weeks and we will know
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Not exactly, but you will know their opinion at that particular time. What I am referring to is that you can send a toned in and get it back AT, send it again and get it back NT.

    Unless it is a very bad AT job, nobody can ever tell you for sure if a coin is AT or NT. All they can ever do is voice their opinion.

    The fact that you stated that the coin looks to be mostly untoned or grey when viewed straight on, and that the toning only shows up at angles, that's usually a pretty good sign the toning is natural.
     
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  16. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    You got that right , I just bought an 1812 Bust half in PCGS AU-55 with a green bean that looks great under the right light with subtle bluish purple toning and loads of Cartwheel luster , but at the wrong angle or light it looks grey .
     
  17. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

    *fingers crossed*

    shipping out tomorrow morning
     
  18. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Good posts from Doug and Jim. I agree with both. If there is not good luster, I believe that coin got help. The reverse purple in the middle of the coin bothers me the most. If it is actually very lustrous, then I would say I have seen weirder toning, and would give it the benefit of the doubt.
     
  19. bhaugh

    bhaugh AKA - 1872Hokie

    I think this is the most accurate discription. "Artifical" toning is a very closed-minded way of looking at it. The toning is most likely created or accelerated through a manmade process.
     
  20. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

    1916-D Lincoln
    1907-P V-Nickel
    1923-P Mercury *Toned*
    1917-P Type I SLQ
    1918-S SLQ
    1919-S Walking Liberty
    1921-D Walking Liberty
    1921-P Walking Liberty
    1887-P Morgan
    1900-P Morgan *Toned*


    I'm glad ANACs is running the special, I'm new to submitting coins so to me the cheaper cost is appealing based on me sending in a cleaned coin etc. I normally flip the coins I purchase and haven't noticed much trouble when reselling NGC/PCGS/ANACs so we shall see.
     
  21. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

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    Artificially toned :(


    Biggest surprise is the 1918-S SLQ, picked it up in a SLQ book I snagged off ebay.. paid a solid $4.50 for the coin


    I think i'm addicted to submitting coins now
     
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