1943 Tombac nickel. This one might go to the plastic factory. 1910 Edward VII 5 cents from Canada, Cleaned, since retoned. 1904 Edward VII Maundy 4 Pence. 1893 Queen Victoria Shilling.
Please correct me if wrong, but are these not lower value coins? Not that there is anything wrong with them, but I thought you had finally decided to focus on quality instead of quantity.
Nice coins. I once sent a Tombac 5 cent coin to be slabbed. As I recall the coin was quite pricey in MS65+ so I took a shot at getting a 65. It came back 64. I forget if they provided any designation with the grade (red) but I don't think they did. The bottom line is that I wish I had not encapsulated the coin because now that beautiful coin is not displayed with my other Canada nickels. Here's a photo of a raw Tombac coin:
Now now, Books. Tim's definition of quality might differ from yours. Remember, quality is a subjective term. I don't know what the plastic factory is, but I assume that means having the coin slabbed by PCGS, since (according to Tim) PCGS slabbed coins are the most economical way of storing coins. If that's the case, I don't understand at all. I can't see the Tombac grading higher than MS64, since many were made, there are nicks in the fields and damage to the rim in the joints. Basically, he seems to be wanting to entomb a $5-$7 coin in a $25 slab.
I would like to complement Tim Detecto on the quality photos in the OP. I appreciate posts with nice clear photos. My photos posted in the last year have been just-OK in my opinion. I haven't been removing the back ground so you have to look at my finger tips or whatever the coin was resting on when I took the shots. Also, I haven't been putting the obverse & reverse in a collage like I used to. Good job on the photos.
Thanks. Not bad for a cheap Nikon point and shoot. I thought about getting a SLR, but I'd rather have PCGS take photos. It would cost over $700 for the right body and macro lens. PCGS only charges $10 per coin, I could have 70 coins slabbed. I only plan on having a dozen or slabbed over the next 3-4 years, so it's more economical to have them do it.
Since you're making the claim, and per your own words, is it not your responsibility to prove this? You recently told NK that not backing up his claims makes him look "dumb", so may I respectfully ask what doing the same does to you? Now, it does seem as if you are now the toning expert, so please allow me to ask this: if someone sent this coin to your new service, what would you advise them to do? What, in your opinion, is a reasonable retail value (raw vs. slabbed) and even though you think it's not important, what is the grade of this coin? I may be interested in sending a few to get an expert's opinion, so give me a taste of what you can do and take at face value the opportunity to prove yourself. I seriously await your response.
The coin has a high mintage. Despite this, the toning makes it desirable. Grade is at least MS62. Raw value $10 add $5 for the toning. Slabbed, at least $25.00. However, I'm not getting this slabbed for the grade, this coin is in my permanent collection, so I plan on getting it slabbed to preserve it.
You do realize that there is no guarantee that a slab will protect a coin from environmental factors...just look at the 1943 NGC "MS67" that was posted recently.
I found ten that seem they would have similar degrees of nice toning when photographed appropriately: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190864225421 http://www.ebay.com/itm/281168440619 http://www.ebay.com/itm/330955975648 http://www.ebay.com/itm/350814322290 http://www.ebay.com/itm/181203603396 http://www.ebay.com/itm/281136486080 http://www.ebay.com/itm/141016135581 http://www.ebay.com/itm/360698490201 http://www.ebay.com/itm/400525226115 http://www.ebay.com/itm/281129981926 It's a high copper content brass coin. If enough examples were made, it stands to reason that a good deal of them would have good toning. Also, if I was able to find 10 just by looking through completed eBay listings, I'm sure there are a good number of them in collections or circulation.
Weird. I thought he was focusing on repairing his car and school and moving rather than quality or quantity. When he said that and someone was like "Whatever dude you'll be posting more coins in a week" (a week ago) he got all mad and was like "You don't know me, how dare you make such a statement!"
This was a lot I bought over a week ago. I don't mean quality in the sense of price. That nickel and the maundy 4 pence are not expensive coins, but look nice.
I give you much credit for answering, but I question the premium you place on this toning. Very questionable move, Tim. So-called "permanent" collection or not, there are much, much wiser and far less expensive ways to "preserve" a coin of even this assumed value. I don't know, man... we catch it from so many angles that it is hard to keep track anymore. He has been talking about returning to school for quite some time now, and IIRC, wants to enter into an automotive tech program, but it has to be out-of-state even though his local college offers this very program. Being as he refuses to take advantage of the just-around-the-corner opportunity, and insists going somewhere else his only viable option, tuition costs come into play and, of course, give him another ridiculous excuse as to why he's done nothing. As for that car, it's a 21 year old Tempo, which should speak for itself. The more we hear, the more his "we are not amused" line fits; we never know which "Tim" we’re going to get.
This seems rather off topic and not pertinent to the thread, perhaps you should've sent this "nugget" via private message, as it adds nothing to the topic.
Tim, as has been said in the past, the thread is not owned/controlled by the original poster. Forums are dynamic systems, and sometimes they veer in unexpected (or undesired) directions. As for the comments made by BB4C, I agree that you're placing a rather large premium on foreign toned coins. The foreign coin market views toning as a negative, for the most part. That means that your potential marketability of the coin shrinks to the following group: US toning collectors that are willing to pay a premium for foreign toned coins. That market is much smaller than you'd think. Also, I never brought this up, because I thought it was obvious: The milk spots and carbon spots on the reverse would be enough to cap this coin at MS63 under Sheldon scale US standards. By foreign standards, you're looking at AU+/Unc- grade level. It's good that you don't care about the price/value/grade of the coin. If you did, you'd be in for a rude awakening when you go to sell it after paying $35 to have it slabbed.
I understand that, but what Books did is called "thread jacking". It's no different if you were conversing to someone about rugby, and some chap piped in with some rubbish story he heard on the tube this morning.
