What is THIS ANACS slab?

At the time Coin Vault was active there were very few slabbed coins. Basically just Accugrade. Everyone else used photocertificates. They licensed the slab shells from Accugrade. Their business model was to offer to put photocertified coins in protective shells. you would send the coins, with certificates to them. They would encapsulate them and return the slabs along with the certificates.

 

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If you look at his completed auctions and feedback, you will see he has never sold a single coin... ever. And at those ridiculous prices, he never will.

 

This is one of the few cases where the crack out is to remove the coin from a flip.

 

Got Polaroids?

 

Given that the grade is subjective to the view of the grader, and we're talking about grades assigned by TPGs, you're wrong, Doug. The assigned grade by ANACS is a MS65. If the coin is removed from the holder and submitted again to ANACS (or another TPG), the grade could change to a MS64 or MS66. Although the coin itself remains constant (ceteris paribus), the grade, which is subjective, can change.

This isn't an argument of "buy the coin, not the slab," but rather one of does a coin maintain an assigned grade in the absence of the original graders slab/marker. The answer is no. If the answer weren't no, TPGs wouldn't be able to use the "grade is only guaranteed so long as the coin remains in the holder" argument. This is especially true of PCGS/NGC coins which are photographed by the TPG. If the coin is unchanged, it shouldn't matter that the coin is no longer in a slab, the grade should remain the same. Unfortunately, this is not always the case. If it were, there would be no need for submission to different TPGs, no need for "crack and sub" considerations, and no need for CAC.

Tim's comment was specifically in response to my comment that the grade is no longer valid (insofar as eBay and ANACS are concerned). He isn't right on this. Neither eBay nor ANACS would acknowledge that coin as being an ANACS graded coin. In fact, ANACS clearly states that it doesn't guarantee grades given by previous incarnations of the company. I don't know why eBay doesn't enforce that aspect of things, but they don't. Regardless of whether they do or don't, the coin, as shown in the listing, would not qualify under eBay's requirements for TPG certified coins. Due to the references to Sheldon scale grades, it wouldn't qualify under the non-certified coins rules, either.

 

Now those are rare holders.

 

BTW, apologies in advance for veering off topic... How is that polaroid so detailed?

 

The weird part is, the coin is grey
and the photo was was grey too
in 1987.

 

I'm wondering if the color shift is from the base yellowing or from the process by which Polaroid film works. It's possible that the blue dyes have faded over time, leaving you with that nice canary-magenta copper tone.

http://www.cointalk.com/threads/ebay-seller-story-wow.236283

Or maybe your camera has the same white balancing issues as the seller in that post.

 

Yes it may have been bad film but
it's not my photo. INS was a old TPG
like ANACS.