Kennedy - major die rotation. I never knew I had it until now

I decided to bust apart my Kennedy Dansco to sell the coins. As I was imaging, I immediately notice the rotation issue when I flipped the coin to snap the reverse.
I am guessing the rotation is between 150-160 degrees, counter clockwise.
This has been in my album for 4 years and never even noticed. I know for sure it came straight from a mint set.
With the limited information available, it appears to be an R-5 rarity.
Thoughts on value? I could only find one past auction on Heritage for a 70's 90 degree proof.

 

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I had to say that because what I posted prior was wrong.

 

Greg, based on the "photo/mirror" shot, it looks like the rotation is about 30-35 degrees. The head of the eagle should be pointing to the location of the first "S" in STATES.

Chris

 

Cmon Chris, you know better than that. The head of the eagle would be pointing straight down if it were normal. Trust me, it's almost 180 degrees from every other Kennedy I have.

 

No, Greg is correct. The "mirror" image should show the eagle upside down.

BTW, nice catch, Greg.

 

Thanks Rick. Better late than never.

 

Nice find.

 

Oops! My mistake. I have too much on my mind today.

Chris

 

I understand Chris. You did make me second guess myself. Because ya know, I'm not allowed to have anything nice.

 

from the Rotated Coin Die Census web site
it says this half should be 180 degrees
http://www.rotateddies.com/

 

Lol. That is just stating the one has been found previous, that was 180 degrees.

Sent from phone. Ignore any spellang errars.

 

If coin is in MS64 condition, about $50. In MS65 maybe $75 - $100. They are fairly common, found in Mints Sets that year and amount of rotation degree was all over the place( Assume they are from a set of dies that were not locked in position properly and changed a little after each strike simular to the 1965 SMS Kennedy).

 

These appear about in about .7% of '88 mint sets. This one is typical in its rotation but is unusually nice. Most are charitably MS-63.

 

Thanks for the info guys.
cladking, thanks for the stats. It amazes me that
you always know these things and it's very enlightening.

 

I'll guess this one is a 66. Nice find.

 

Very nice find, and as stated better late then never, lol

 

I hate to point this out...but, the obverse seems to show the type of seam that would be seen on a "Magician's Coin". It is fairly evident as a microscopic break between the rim and the field at the LI of LIBERTY and then on the TY-WE TRUST area of the coin. A close look with a good loupe will show the seam as being all the way around the rim.

If you drop the coin on a hard surface, carefully, it is likely to go "Thud" rather than ring like a normal half. I find about ten of these each year as I search through rolls. Many hoped for rotated die errors on Kennedys are magician's coins that were not aligned correctly when they were put together during their manufacture.

The obverse is the "insert" that fits into a "shell" created by the reverse. The insert is meant to be turned in order to create a two-headed or two tailed half. Some are made to expose a British Penny or a Mexican 20 Centavos when the insert is turned.

I feel strongly that this one is not an error but a man-made piece. It's tough to miss the seam when you have seen 50 or more of these. While I hope I'm wrong, I think I'm not.

Thanks,
Bill

 

Bill, that is the first thing I checked. I also took it to the LCS to verify it's authenticity.