1864-L Indian Head Cent?

This coin was in the 1864-L Indian Head spot in a Whitman book I bought. I think I see the "L" in the ribbon and the bust looks pointy. Would you say it was an 1864-L? It needs to be soaked in Verdi-care to get at least some of the verdigris off it.

 

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The coin is in such bad shape I can't see an L, I'm not saying it isn't there.

 

I thought I saw it but think I may be mistaken. It looks like part of the "L". I was mostly looking at the bust shape to see if it is pointy.

 

Here is an 1864 to compare it too.

 

Too me the bust look to rounded on both coins to be 1864-L. Now it could just be the wear on the second coin, but still I would not below is a link to a nice worn one with the distinctive pointed bust. Just my opinion and I am not an expert.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1864-L-Long...S%2BUFI%2BIIUM&otn=21&pmod=180997985396&ps=54

 

Here is a closer picture of the first one. The second one is not an L. It is round.

 

Agree with Mark the bust is to rounded I vote No L

 

I meant, this is a rounded bust 1864 to compare it to. It is not an 1864-L.

 

I think that many people have a difficult time figuring out the 1864-L on low grade and damaged coins like this. To me, the coin looks like it has a pointed bust and is similar to the coin MarkH posted when I examine with my loupe. The second coin I posted is definitely rounded and I used it as an example of a lower grade rounded bust. That is why I think you have to watch when purchasing them. This coin was part of partial set in a Whitman book and was in the 1864-L hole. I know I was depending on that the old collector could tell the difference.

 

the grade of the coin is so low that it does not matter whether or not it is the L variety.