What is your opinion on this 1834 Capped bust Quarter?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Freddypm, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. Freddypm

    Freddypm Member

    What do you think of this one? It is an 1834 Capped Bust Quarter. I am listing it and would like some feedback form the group. IMHO, it is AU ish. What do you think?

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  3. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    From the photos, I think it's been cleaned and possibly has corrosion. AU deatils, damaged/cleaned, net VF.

    I'd realy like to see the coin in-hand, because the angle and size of the photos really makes it tough...Mike
     
  4. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    Not sure about the corrosion, leadfoot is very good about grading these but I agree it has been cleaned that will bring the price down I say vf-20.

    BRUCE "THE FRANK GROUP"
     
  5. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I would say it has au-50 details, and as mentioned has been cleaned . It also looks like there may be corrosion between the 3rd and 4th star, as well as after the last star. It also has some neat die cracks on the reverse.
     
  6. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Dang-it, somebody cleaned that coin and cleaned that coin good... Overall VF-35 I'd say, nice details too.

    Take Care & Merry Christmas
    Ben
     
  7. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    I am leaning towards EF-45 "Cleaned" as I believe that there is a little bit too much wear on Miss Liberty's hairlines and the upper edges of the Eagle's wings! If graded and the TPG does Net grading, then it may get knocked down to a VF-20 to VF-30 but I don't think that all of the TPG's do Net grading anymore.


    The Other, Other Frank
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Still a nice coin for a type that you can't find very often.
    Nice find.
     
  9. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    I like it and have to say that cleaned coins dont put me off unless they have been scrubbed LOL

    De Orc :D
     
  10. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I think it would get a NET grade of VF.
    Nice coin and if the price was low enough it might still be worth it.

    Speedy
     
  11. Freddypm

    Freddypm Member

    The coin definately is not corroded. If it has been cleaned, it was not scrubbed. I truly believe this would go au50 or high XF
     
  12. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Net Grade Strong VF. I dont see the corrosion mentioned, I do believe that it has been cleaned, but not many of those havent been in the past. Nice speciman. You will probably get XF money for it on the bay I would guess
     
  13. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    I'm with Freddy...slight amount of wear but outstanding detail for a coin this age.I'm going with AU-50 cleaned.I'd love to own it!!
     
  14. gunsmoke

    gunsmoke Senior Member

    This "other Frank and other, other Frank" stuff is starting to get on my nerves.
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Freddy,

    I'm not sure how you can be "definite" about anything from a photo, but hopefully what follows will help describe how I arrived at my opinon...

    The areas around the devices seem to show some porosity -- look around the stars on the obverse and around the lettering on the reverse. Just as if this coin was heavily toned and porous in the areas that I mentioned and this toning and corrosion was subsequently removed by a cleaning. When done, this has a very distinctive look, just like I see in the photos on this coin, and if examined in-hand under magnification, identification of this porosity/corrosion problem will be quite easy -- the surface of the coin will have tiny "holes". However, it is also possible that this area of "darnkess" that I think is corrosion may just be way the coin is retoning, toning that wasn't removed when the coin was cleaned, or even the remnants of luster.

    By way of example, take a look at the following coin:

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    See the area of slight darkness from 4 o'clock to 6 o'clock? This is light corrosion that has been "fixed". Under magnification, it becomes immediately evident, but held at arms length, the coin appears to only be off-color in this area. The bust quarter seems to me to have had the same type of work done, but the underlying corrosion was either primarily where the dark areas are (as dug coins often do), or the corrosion was over the entire coin and was subsequently polished away and left in the more protected areas.

    I could certainly be wrong, and that's why I added the disclaimer saying I really wanted to see the coin in-hand to be sure.

    Regardless, it is virtually impossible through photos to know for sure if the coin has any of these faults, so it is wise not to be "definite" about anything when you're basing your opinion solely on a photo.

    Respectfully submitted...Mike
     
  16. NathansCoin

    NathansCoin New Member


    what are you hopping to get for it?
     
  17. Freddypm

    Freddypm Member

    Mike,

    I have the coin in hand, so I am not looking at the photo. I was just trying to clarify the point that others had made metion of saying that it looks like corrosion.

    Freddypm
     
  18. Freddypm

    Freddypm Member

    I am looking to get high EF type money for it. I listed it last night on the bay.
     
  19. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Whoops! :hammer:

    I am glad to hear that. :)
     
  20. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Freddy, they are referring to the dark spots on the obverse.
    I can't agree, without seeing either the coin in hand or a closeup of the areas.
    So, I'll reserve opinion.
     
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