ancient roman error coin ? or ?

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  1. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    I have one coin that seems to have designs of two different coins or maybe im missing something here


    my coin

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    Mine seems to have the reverse of this one but the obverse of the last one that has less letters on its reverse . The branch looks more like a lighting bolt on mine tho


    this reverse

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    A.D. 333-4
    Obv. VRBS-ROMA [City of Rome] Roma, helmeted, wearing imperial cloak.
    Rev. She-wolf left with twins (Romulus and Remus); above, two stars.
    laurel branch in center; in ex. TRP
    RIC VII Trier 561 c3


    this obverse and maybe legend on reverse

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    A.D. 333-4
    Obv. VRBS-ROMA [City of Rome] Roma, helmeted, wearing imperial cloak.
    Rev. She-wolf left with twins (Romulus and Remus); above, two stars. wreath (with dot) in centre
    PCONST
    RIC VII Arles 379 r3
     
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  3. Bing

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  4. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    thanks still didnt find it. i thout it mite be constantinople. because of the word const on mine but then i seen one with the legend sconst so im going that direction

    close but not it [​IMG]
     
  5. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    and we have a winner [​IMG]


    Anonymous Commemorative issue, Time of Constantine, AE3/4. VRBS ROMA; Helmeted bust of Roma facing left / She-wolf standing left suckling twins; two stars above, three-armed branch in upper centre; mintmark SCONST. RIC VII Arles 368 var (branch type). is the number 368 the year?
     
  6. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    besides the tail object on the back of the head facing down on mine and up on this one
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The number 368 is the catalog number in Roman Imperial Coins (RIC). If indeed yours is RIC VII Arles #368, it was struck c. 332 AD.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I would suggest as a next step that you become familiar with the concept of mint marks as they appear on Roman coins of the late 3rd and following centuries. It is not a simple subject and rules changed frequently. Your coin had no reverse 'legends'. All the letters were mintmark. Over time, Rome used over two dozen mints but the most at one time was about 15. City names occasionally were changed and what data was included in the marks varied greatly as did the structure of each mint. Most mints were divided into more than one workshop (officina) which were indicated in the mintmark in one of several different ways. I never wrote a page on the subject but the following might give an idea how complex the system can be.
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Mint Marks
    Remember, however, that this chart gives the whole list over many years so the first step is to determine which cities were in operation and which system they used when the coin in question was used.

    ...and here is the big part: There are a few things that we simply do not know. For example, it is not certain what the branch meant on that particular coin. Some scholars have theories about some markings but there is still room for study into codes from any given mint in any given year. 'Why' is not always an easy question.
     
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