What in the world was the mint thinking????

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by zaneman, Dec 21, 2006.

  1. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I've always disliked the Susan B. Anthony dollar. Frank Gasparro had a much greater vision, which I would like to share a picture of. It was taken from the following website:

    http://www.uspatterns.com/1977.html

    Just out of curiosity, for those who have never seen the pattern, do you prefer it over the Susan B Anthony dollar?
     

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  3. wvrick

    wvrick Senior Member

    agree

    i agree that it is a much nicer design,
     
  4. coldhardcash

    coldhardcash Member

    Yes, I do! But then a blank planchet would have been better than what they came up with! I also liked the Statue of Liberty option offered when the SBA was getting the axe.
     
  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

  6. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I'll damn it with faint praise - The model for Ms. Liberty was better looking than the real Susan B. :D
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    You hit the nail on the head. Anything would have been better, say, a mutilated coin? A waffle coin? anything.
     
  8. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Liberty!!

    I think the coin with Liberty on it looks much, much better than poor sue.
     
  9. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Much nicer overall design :thumb:

    De Orc :kewl:
     
  10. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    Oh yes a much better design if it was the size of a dollar though, and not the size of a quarter

    BRUCE "THE FRANK GROUP"
     
  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    The Susan B is very underapreciated. And I have a question, was Ben Franklin Sexy to look at?

    Ruben
     
  12. Old Silver

    Old Silver New Member

    Actually, I don't care for either one.
     
  13. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator



    You better believe it! Good old pin-up model Ben Franklin. J/k :goofer:

    Personally, I don't like Susan B anthony coins, because they have the same reverse as eisenhower dollars, and I just don't like the overall design. Now, franklin halves I like a lot. Especially ones in 65 and better condition. : )
     
  14. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I like it much better.

    We have all heard that sex sells, the mint and its marketing team should learn something from it. Make the images the best of someone and watch the popularity grow.

    I believe more people would want to collect a more attractive Susan B., not the mother and child version. Ask any woman what picture she would want immortalized and see what answer she would give.

    All of these former presidents, first ladies, and American Heroes probably turn in their graves every time the mint issues a coin with them on it. The only one probably ok with his image is Kennedy because the mint could not use an image of him as an old man. Don't get me wrong, nothing bad about being old, it's just not as attractive. If you consider yourself old I hope you do not take that opinion personally! I'm working on it and I admit I am not as good looking as I was at 25.

    One of the reasons I like the American Eagle is because the Obverse is nice to look at. Something to be learned from it I believe.

    Thanks for sharing - Have a happy holiday!!!
     
  15. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    OMG, that is a much nicer design. Who would have voted against it?

    Take Care & Merry Christmas
    Ben
     
  16. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    People don't belong on circulation coins. They belong on commemoratives. Images of liberty and other symbols of the nation belong on circulation coins.

    ...just an opinion.
     
  17. hepcat57

    hepcat57 New Member

    Or...imagine how that could look on a Sac planchet, minus the 11-sided polygon inlay. Very nice, indeed.
     
  18. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    That's an interesting opinion considering the history of coins going back to the beginning of coins.?. IMO - I like images on coins and believe it helps to remember the history of our country and others on foreign coins. I'm proud of the fact that these men and women dedicated their lives to make this country what it is and believe they have earned the right to be remembered in this manner. Just a differing opinion.
     
  19. umtrr-author

    umtrr-author Thalia and Kieran's Dad

    Perhaps part of the question should be, "the image" or "the stylized image"? How much like the actual monarchs, for example, did the images look?

    In terms of the images of Liberty, it's kind of interesting to consider what the images looked like over time. Given the current obsession with "thin is in," would the Standing Liberty have been put on a diet today, for example?

    I think it's fair to say that the SBA tried to capture a realistic image of Susan B. Anthony. I've never read any accounts that report that she was an especially attractive woman.

    I do like the pattern, though, kind of a nice throwback to the early Liberty Cap design but updated with better technology. It's all kind of a wash when you consider how poorly the dollar coin circulates. As we've discussed before, until the USA dumps the dollar bill, it could be a blank planchet or the most attractive / sexy design ever and it still wouldn't matter much. (insert "sigh" emoticon here)
     
  20. JBK

    JBK Coin Collector

    People need to consider the reasons why we got the SBA so we csn maybe avoid a repeat performance someday. It was pure politics. Special interests rammed it through Congress, and it could/will happen again.

    (Maybe it already has with the new dollar coin series).
     
  21. Tom Maringer

    Tom Maringer Senior Member

    It was my understanding that George Washington himself signed the original coinage law that specified that all United States coinage SHALL HAVE on the obverse an allegorical figure of Liberty. And so we did... until Teddy Roosevelt cast that law aside and approved the Lincoln cent. The intent of the original law was specifically to AVOID having humans portrayed on coins because of the monarchial flavour of that depiction. It was a deliberate BREAK with the numismatic past of Europe. The U.S. was to be founded on PRINCIPLES not on the deification of individuals. Master engraver Ron Landis of Gallery Mint championed a return to the original law, and offered his Concept Dollar design to the mint in place of the Sacagewea. I agree! Let's go back to the Lady! Poor George is probably rolling in his grave to have been placed on the quarter dollar all these years... in DIRECT contravention of his strongly expressed views on the matter!!!!

    And while we're at it... dump Andrew Jackson off the $20 bill. As the architect of the Indian Removal Act he is regarded by many as an ethnic cleanser right up there with Hilter, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Milosovich. It is an affront to every native American alive to honor that man on our currency. It is no secret to people in other countries that we thus honor our most traitorous president, and it does not help our poor reputation for arrogance and ethnocentrism that we've recently gained with the rest of the world.
     
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