Die crack? Stamp through? Die clash? 1973 Lincoln Rev.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by tomfiggy, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    This one really stood out. I'm not sure of the cause. Can you help?
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  3. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Since its sticking out, instead of incuse, that means it would be related to the die. It almost looks like the die was gouged by the blade of a flat blade screwdriver.

    Might be one to send it, that's pretty unique.
     
  4. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Yes it must be in the die so there may be more like it....
     
  5. AlexMoore

    AlexMoore Active Member

    That looks cool! Definitely interested in seeing what this might indeed be.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I guess it could be from a damaged die but I'm thinking it's a dropped design element.
     
  7. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    a dropped design element would have to be incuse on the coin. someone on here mentioned this area may be raised. if it is raised then something probably dented the die in this area .
     
  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    If the dropped element was retained, it would be raised.
     
  9. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    no if the dropped element was retained it would be flush with the surface of the coin unless it had started to come loose and falling out of the coin.
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    We need Mikes help on this one. I see what you are saying. Could it happen both ways? Cool coin.
     
  11. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I suppose a dropped element could impart an impression on the die face and then manifest as raised on coins then struck by that die. I think this is much more prosaic though, and is simply a die gouge.
     
  12. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    The bar is raised. It's almost as tall as the lettering. It appears to come from underneath the N. That would imply something was impressed on the die but before it was hubbed?
     
  13. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Here is where it dies out. It's raised like all the features on the coin. Image5891.jpg
     
  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    After a bit of study, I must be wrong. What could damage a die in such a way?
     
  15. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    this is probably from feeder finger damage. usually when a feeder finger scrapes across a die it will make 2 or more of the die scrapes or scratches , but I think it would be possible for it to leave only one scrape line. I have some cent coins here with a few to numerous feeder finger scratches on them. I have some where almost the entire die had been scratched and the coins looks awesome.
     
  16. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Feeder finger damage was my first thought seeing this.
     
  17. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Feeder fingers cut a slice into the hardened steel of the die?.I was thinking the die. Must have been notched before hubbing. The letter N is a little taller than the bar and there is no bar going across the N. . I'm pret sure the bar starts under the N. I think.I see part of the bar on the other side of the N.
     
  18. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Feeder finger scrapes do happen, but on second thought, I don't think this is them. Feeder finger scrapes go in a NW/SE direction. This goes in a slight SW/NE direction. It is quite unusual looking, though I am fairly certain is a die gouge. Still, would like to hear from the experts on this one.
     
  19. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    regardless of what did this it is still just a die scratch or gouge . this don't make a valuable error unless we want to give it some kind of a nickname and hipe it up as the worlds most rare and valuable coin. thousands of folks got their butts burned really bad by someone hiping up the other die gouge coins that sadly we all know very well. one more couldn't hurt very much I suppose. no just kidding , we don't need another one talked up
     
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  20. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Oh please talk it up. Lol
     
  21. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I'm trying to think up a good nickname for it. Maybe someone else on here can think of something. It would be better to find a few more from this same die that struck your coin to make them worth a little more. I have seen a few of them while roll searching but never saved any of them. I keep all of them I find that have numerous feeder finger scratches going completely thru the memorial building. keep checking the reverse side of the coins while roll searching and you may find a awesone die gouge cent coin.
     
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