German Empire Coins Are Awesome

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  1. Mynter

    Mynter Active Member

    The latest addition to my Empire - collection: 1 Mark 1906 A , (Berlin ), 430 proof minted
     

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  3. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    That must be a beautiful proof in hand.
     
  4. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Only 430 struck in Proof!!!!
    One Very low mintage 1 Mark Nice:)
     
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  5. goldmark

    goldmark Active Member

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    Hello Mynter what's your take on this one?
     
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  6. goldmark

    goldmark Active Member

    Two German 1/2 Marks with light patina.
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  7. vtvick777

    vtvick777 Member

    The eBay seller gmarguli currently has a bunch (70) PCGS Mint-State graded coins from German States through German Empire listed that end in between 5-7 hours. There are some great coins for sale. I was hoping that a few might go low enough that I could possibly get one, but, as always it seems like my favorites are always the most valuable. (Lubeck, Saxony-Victory)

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/Germany-/173619/m.html?_ipg=&_from=&_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ssn=gmarguli

    Just a few :
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  8. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    Super Goldmark. I love those 1/2 Marks. I am also a fan of 1900 coins. Send them down under. Only way I can get BU coins ;)
     
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  9. goldmark

    goldmark Active Member

    I will keep my eyes open for a few niece ones.:)
     
  10. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    10,000 Mark + Not Gold but Brass
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  11. goldmark

    goldmark Active Member

    German post WWI Notgeld from the province Westfalen.

    Large and heavy in weight, the material composition varies. The copper-zinc version has a weight of 31,5 g and a diameter of 44,5 mm, and 33,5 g with a diameter of 44mm for the copper-tin version. Both versions have no reeding and are normally gilded, besides what I listed there are some other design differences (vom Stein's head in high relief or flat). Strikes in other metals like silver exist too.

    Angelo, would you like to have one of these coins?
     
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  12. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Sure if free I would like that!!!!!!:)
     
  13. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

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    I am waiting on this.
    I hope its better than photos
     
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  14. Mynter

    Mynter Active Member

    Hello Goldmark,

    top grade ! I am still looking for a Hamburg 1 Mark of the those years. They are pretty hard to come by in any quality. I once read that most of the 1 Mark coins from hamburg mint where struck for the colonies, but so far I have not manged to varify that. I also wonder if other denominations minted at Hamburg could have been " for export only ".

    Best regards, Mynter
     
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  15. goldmark

    goldmark Active Member

    Yes a freebie in an okay grade.

    Thanks for the reply.

    I remember to have seen an older post of yours (ca. 3 months ago) in another forum in which you've given some exemplary mintage numbers for coinage minted in Hamburg on request by third party sovereigns, and it seems that the time frame falls in this case indeed together with orders made by Romania and Siam (Brazil ???). The appalling lack of high quality specimen (uncirculated and better) is on the other hand not only limited to these few years, it's a general problem for the Hamburg mint. I've to admit before you mentioned it I hadn't taken foreign export strikes into consideration and it's indeed a peculiar situation. The numbers of minted coins alone and the suggested numbers of survived population as stated by Jäger (admittedly on global level and not for a particular type) cannot really serve as an explanation. Mintage numbers in the hundreds of thousands to a million wouldn't suggest there to be a limitation in available coins to the degree existent. Albeit Jäger was highly optimistic in my opinion, a great deal of coins in all the smaller denominations must have been lost by now. If you look at the coins being thrown in the melting pot the small silver coins are among the first.
    What do you think of the theory that it may have to do with the overall, rather poor, strike quality of the coins minted in Hamburg and the limited desirability for collectors to preserve and hoard them during their time? Many of the coins minted in Hamburg seem to have a few strike related deficits, perhaps this has affected perception in a negative way? I think early Imperial coinage wasn't too popular either and look to where the prices for uncirculated specimens are headed. There is interest but if you want them it can actually be a challenge, highly in contrast to many American coins that are decently available in a broad spectrum form lowest to highest grade even for coins considered rare.
     
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  16. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Thank you Derick!!!!!!!!!:):):):):):) here the1923 you ! */ 2013-09-04 23.19.25.jpg 2013-09-04 23.16.41.jpg
     
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  17. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Keep in mind though that the Westfalen coins did not actually circulate but were primarily issued as fundraisers. ("Medaillenartige Erinnerungsstücke mit Wertangabe, deren Reinertrag sozialen Zwecken zufloss", as the Jaeger puts it.) Only the fall 1923 issues were supposed to be notgeld - but they had become worthless by the time they came out, and were then sold or donated ...

    Christian
     
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  18. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Pcgs would say anything from EF-48-Au-55 Ngc Au-50-55.That the grade in hand I would say the coin is:D ?I am no expert:(
    I pm when you need to watch your mail. I was able to remove the address. so we won't have to hunt what I find to send ya. I don't want you have track it down like this one I sold and sent you!!!! Thank you Karsten :):D:) .
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  19. goldmark

    goldmark Active Member

    It's nothing special , it was given as a small gift and if you like it it's all that matters.:)

    Hmm, good question. I don't really know how PCGS or NGC would grade this 10000 Mark coin. In my opinion this coin is vorzüglich (Europ. XF) which should be semantically equivalent to American AU. A range of AU50-55 seems realistic.

    Hi Christian, I believe this to have been a result not by intention but by effect of raging hyperinflation. Back then they tried to adapt the given denomination for this coin from 10000 Mark to 5 million, 50 million and later on to even 1 trillion. Well the mintage numbers for the 1 trillion type are rather low and with the introduction of the Rentenmark and currency reform of November 1923 these coins became practically worthless. With the exchange rate of 1 trillion paper mark (post WWI Mark no longer covered by gold) to 1 Rentenmark, not much was left.

    You can also find well circulated pieces, so it's not like they have never seen use as medium of exchange.
     
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  20. Mynter

    Mynter Active Member

    Time to display a few more Empire-beauties: Prussia, 3 mark com. to celebrate the centennial of the Breslau- university. The minting figures are 200.000 for the currency issue a unknown number for the proofs. i find it quit interesting to compare the different effect the polished and the normal die are displaying. J 108 Av.JPG J 108 PP Av.JPG J 108 Re.JPG J 108 PP Re.JPG
     
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  21. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Nice coins, particularly the proof version. :) I also like the eagle style; most 3M and 5M silver pieces have the "regular" imperial eagle instead. The university is quite a bit older by the way; it was founded in 1702 (before Silesia became Prussian). The "new" 1811 university got a new name and more faculties ...

    Christian
     
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