Proof-like or proof Liberty nickel?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by micbraun, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Can someone with more experience on nickel coins tell me whether this is a proof coin?
    In hand, the fields are much more shiny than on the pictures. However the stars to the left are weakly struck and I thought proof coins are struck multiple times...?
     

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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I will say with 85% assurance that this is a business strike coin. The rims look rounded, not sharp and squared.
     
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  4. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    It is a business strike. Although there are a few dates that are known with incomplete stars on the obverse, it is quite unusual to find them on the 1900. Secondly, the reverse is ever so slightly off centered, that is a diagnostic that you should never find on proofs.
     
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  5. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Thanks, guys. What grade would you give the coin? As I said, I am a bit lost with nickels ;-)
     
  6. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I would call it AU details because it looks fairly harshly cleaned.
     
  7. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I checked with my ANA grading guide which clearly says where to look at, but I don't see any wear or abrasion. Where do you see abrasions?
     
  8. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    PS: you could be right with regards to the cleaning... I am still unsure though, will need to look at the coin again by daylight.
     
  9. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    It will be hard to see a trace amount of wear on a coin once it has been cleaned likt that. Generally though, you can hold the coin at a slight angle to spot the breaks in luster.
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    neither, cleaned coin
     
  11. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I am watching this coin as a replacement for the cleaned one, what do you think?
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  12. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    This one also looks cleaned.
     
  13. micbraun

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  14. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Gee, I was afraid you would say so... what are people doing to those coins?
     
  15. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I don't know, it has indications of cleaning, but I think that it is actually die polish lines.
     
  16. tgaw

    tgaw Member

    I think it was cleaned
     
  17. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned


    The locations of those hairlines indicate they are not die polish lines, to me at least.
    If they were die polish lines, I would expect to see at least a few going right into the devices and out the other side of said devices. Also, I see the same lines on top of the face and other devices. Not to mention they are huge compared to die polish lines.

    Quick example of some die polish lines.
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  18. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I see what you are saying, but I would expect some frostyness around the devices similar to the OPs first coin if it were caused by cleaning. Hard to tell, but it doesn't have the look of a coin that would have been so harshly cleaned to leave marks like that.
     
  19. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    To me, it also appears to not have luster either. That is another reason I drew that conclusion.

    Here are some full shots. I contrasted one to see if cartwheel is noticeable. It;s not.

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  20. gunnovice09

    gunnovice09 Nothing

    It looks harshly cleaned to me also.
     
  21. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I'm not sure, either way I think I would stay away.
     
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