1802 error

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Van22, Jan 25, 2023.

  1. Van22

    Van22 New Member

    Does anybody know the value for this type of error. Thanks for any help
     

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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    A contrivance, intended to part someone from their hard-earned money.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    If it's legit it can carry a premium.
    I looks fishy to me IMHO

    I've seen a few fakes made like yours.
    Where did you acquire it from?

    Please show both sides.

    Let me tag a few error specialists
    @JCro57
    @Fred Weinberg


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  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    Why strike a second time if the coin clearly was well-centered on the first strike?

    Why are the surfaces of the second impression unnaturally nice compared to the natural looking surfaces of the first? Moved metal from a much more recent second strike filling in voids left by corrosion of a much older first impression?

    Most importantly, the second strike was delivered by a different die from the first.

    I see nothing that speaks of a second strike in the US Mint . . . nothing.
     
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  6. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    This is another instance where I would ask everyone not to validate something we are not positive about. Better, closer, clear photos are needed. At this point @ToughCOINS has the best answer. IMHO.
     
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  7. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    More pic's please. Thanks, and welcome to CT.
     
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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I didn't validate it :wacky:

    I just asked questions. But I'm leaning towards fake.
     
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  9. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Sorry, I was not referring to you. It was just a general comment for future posts. I see where you were going with it.
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Do you know where that happens a lot. On a few Facebook pages about coins, paper currency and mint errors.. Every newbie thinks they're an expert and everything has to be an error.. I just visit those FB pages to get a good laugh :hilarious:
     
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  11. Van22

    Van22 New Member

    New to the site thought I did post both sides. It’s my son in laws coin. It was given to him with a bunch of older coins from around the world. Haven’t seen it in person yet. He has other error pennys but much newer. Wasn’t sure if they made more errors 200 years ago then they do today. 36D7857E-4085-4EF8-A5F1-4D7288BB6367.png 11FE5B37-7AC7-4364-9225-CE9A5F71F012.png
     
  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    One way to be sure that an error of this sort happened at this year in time, is to search the minting process of an 1802 coin.
    Just a thought?
     
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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Good enough for me
     
  14. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    It's cast and probably should have been cassed.
     
  15. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Why would someone go to the trouble of tooling an error coin (of fixed alignment and orientation) for which the alignment and orientation of a legitimate mint error of this type would occur randomly? Why do you believe it was cast? Where do you think it was gated?
     
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  16. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Hard to be sure from the one obv. photo only, but
    I've very suspicious of it 'as is'.

    We'd need to see a nice photo of the reverse -

    The surface corrosion is a factor, obviously
     
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  17. Van22

    Van22 New Member

    I am going to pick the coin up next week from my son in-law. I live in NJ and they are in the DC area. The coin was his great aunts, who worked in a bank. I’ll have better pictures and maybe weight and exact sizes. No harm no foul, I appreciate everyone’s positive comments and thoughts!
     
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  18. Van22

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  19. Van22

    Van22 New Member

    So after everybody’s opinions, I went to the Baltimore coin show and sent the penny off with PCGS. Just got the news that it is a mint error. Very pleased but a long wait. Got my 5$ libertys back in 4 weeks. The penny was 4 months and is on its way back to us now! Lol! Thanks to all the people that gave positive comments and to the non useful comments he who laughs last laughs longest.
     
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  20. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Now that there comment was non useful!

    Congratulations!
     
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  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Interesting...
     
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