trivia: 1913 liberty head nickle

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by coingeek12, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    here is some info on the 1913 liberty nickel in which only 5 are know to exist.

    Cut and paste of copyrighted material . Yes wikipedia is copyrighted.

    Please use links.
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Cool. I just saw the Norweb specimen today at the Smithsonian. I saw the Walton specimen at the Baltimore Whitman coin show this spring too. 2 down 3 to go. :) Now if I could just get my hands on one...
     
  4. Aslpride

    Aslpride Active Member

    Dislike. It's like own an illegal drugs in legal way. I haven't heard about this coin until this thread being posted. I read your post then read two different articles from google. Some collectors mention those coins as holy grail or a must to have in their collection. IMO, it shouldn't have been exist and should be melted. I am not avid of owning coins that didn't have official record and produce by US mint and yet, collectors are crawling for those coins. Sorry to be negative, but it's my opinion. Thank you for post this thread. :)
     
  5. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Where's the trivia?
     
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  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Thank you.
     
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  7. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    You certainly are intitled to your opinion Aslpride, but I believe it is every coin collectors dream to own or obtain the very best of any rare coin in any series. If you are a collector and had the money, I would guess you would be in line just in back of me to obtain a coin that you could say that no one else has.
     
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  8. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    FYI, the period which the person could be prosecuted expired after seven years. Also, the '33 double eagles still have legal battles while, to my knowledge these never did.
    Finely, the Smithsonian has one so I guess that says something:p.
     
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  9. Aslpride

    Aslpride Active Member

    Mojavedave: Nah, you will not find me line up behind you. :)

    vlaha: See, if that person who illegal make that coin has revealed the coins within seven years then, it will be melted by court or supreme court's order. Therefore, it was illegal made and now everyone want one. However, it's never proof that it was made from US mint. It could be homemade as it's still a mystery. ;)
     
  10. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I have seen three of them this year. :)

    The idea that the 1913 should be illegal to own is a very legitimate debate. While the dozen 1933 St. Gaudens coins were confiscated from the family that (stole) owned them, the 1913s (which are technically stolen US government property) trade quite freely and publicly. Why are the rules so different for these million dollar coins?

    Another coin along these lines is the 1964-D Peace dollars. For years these coins have been rumored to exist, yet none have (or likely will ever) come out of hiding for fear that they would be confiscated.
     
  11. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    I did read somewhere that Samuel brown, o former mint employee was the first one to own all three. he supposedly got them because he worked in the mint. so they might have been taken by him illegally.
    just fyi.

    -coingeek12

    p.s. I don't see why it should be illegal to own any us coin. that's just my opinion.
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I removed the copyrighted material and the OP can add the link to the article if he wishes. I realize other coin related websites have it posted verbatim, but it is against our rules.
     
  13. gunnovice09

    gunnovice09 Nothing

    Wikipedia isn't a reliable source anyways. Anybody can add anything to it.
     
  14. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    But I read it on the internet! It must be true!
     
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  15. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    What are you trying to say? I can make no sense of your post.o_O
     
  16. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Five:D
     
  17. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    In the "Hawaii Five-O" episode "The $100,000 Nickel" about a 1913 nickel,
    McGarrett and Danno never booked the coin's owner, only the people who stole it.

    So if it's all right with McGarrett, it's all right.

    See my website under "Coins on Television" for details.

    :)
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Seven years after the theft was discovered. And even if you can't prosecute the thief, stolen property is still stolen property and belongs to the person it was stolen from. Personally I would say that none of the 1913 v nickels have a good and clear title except for the Norweb coin. And the only reason it has clear title is because it is back in government hands. Legally the government could probably confiscate the others at any time if they so chose.

    And you want trivia,

    When Col Green owned the 1913 V nickels a special case was made up to hold his 1913 nickels. How many spaces were there in the case? Where is that case today?
     
  19. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Legally they could confiscate it, however they have not gone after any of them(to my knowledge), whereas they have gone after the '33s and they were minted a while after;).

    Eric Newman has the case, it either had seven or eight spots, and it currently has a 1913 buffalo nickle struck in copper:p.
     
  20. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    6
     
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  21. Aslpride

    Aslpride Active Member

    Sorry, my previous comment wasn't translate correctly. Here's correct translated...

    In scenario, suppose that person did revealed the coins within seven years. More likely, governments would confiscate the coins and melt them. Basically, 1913 V Liberty coin was made illegal and consider as "outlaw" coins that everyone want to have one.

    Based on people's articles, it was never a proof that those coins was made illegal in US mint. As far as we know it may be a homemade coins by Samuel Brown. We may never know as it's a mystery. ;)
     
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