Looking for help understanding exactly how this occurred.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ToughCOINS, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Help . . . I bought a great error for inventory yesterday, edited - forum rules

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    post pictures, but not links

    I strongly believe the coin was misattributed by ANACS, and that it is an entirely different class of error, but I want to be able to support my position with a plausible minting process that can people can relate to.

    Can anyone come up with an explanation as to why the partial clad layers are all roughly the same size, and how they bonded in this chainlike manner?

    - Mike
     
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  3. cpm9ball

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    We need photos, but not the link to the sale.

    Chris
     
  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    error-struck-5-times-1.jpg error-struck-5-times-2.jpg error-struck-5-times-3.jpg error-struck-5-times-4.jpg error-struck-5-times-8.jpg Here are several images of the coin. If you need to look at more, there are additional photos on my website Edit - Forum Rules
     
  5. cpm9ball

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    It appears that it was a scrap of the sheet from which the planchets are cut that somehow made its way into the coining chamber where it stuck to the hammer die for the striking of five planchets. If this is correct, there would also have been at least five coins produced with a similar strikethrough. Whether or not these error coins escaped inspection would be unknown, but if one should ever surface, it sure would be cool to have both the coin and the scrap as a pair.

    Chris
     
  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    When I first bought it, I too thought it to be one piece. However, closer examination reveals that it is actually five individual partial clad layers, joined together, which I suspect you can discern from the image below.

    Those clad layers appear to be fused together from the striking pressure. It is the series of events producing this piece which taxes my imagination. error-struck-5-times-9.jpg
     
  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I have trouble with the idea that they were fused together by the striking pressure. The third photo up show the metal as being nonfused with rather sharp edges and folding of the very thin material, Any pressure scenario would have to explain why the edges were "fused together" with little distortion to the scrap. To me it looks like is is one scraped tightly folded. I can sense you want it to be so for financial reasons perhaps, but I don't see that.
     
  8. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    I don't see how it can be graded !
     
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  9. gunnovice09

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    I'm thinking more like AU ;)
     
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  10. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    I concur!
     
  11. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I think what you are imagining is that a single thin fragment is doubled back on itself numerous times, like switchbacks on a steep mountain road. What I see are five pieces laying on each other like fallen dominoes, and apparently fused into one.
     
  12. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'd like to meet the cashier who would actually accept this for a cup of Joe.
     
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