Foreign Coins used in Colonial America

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  1. ColonialDave

    ColonialDave New Member

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  3. ColonialDave

    ColonialDave New Member

    Here some colonial era coin exchange tables that I am sure some of you have seen before from almanacs listing various world coins, including the Half Joe:

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    http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/michener.american.colonies.money

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    http://www.theoldstonefort.org/Exhibits/vMONEY/Colonial.html

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  4. ColonialDave

    ColonialDave New Member

    Lastly (for now), a link to Louis Jordan's "Coins of Colonial and Early America" Notre Dame site.

    Link: http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/index.html

    This is an awesome website with lots of information about coins used in Colonial America.
     
  5. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Don't forget the native proto-currencies:

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    UNITED STATES, Native proto-currency. Seneca tribe.
    Ganounata village (Honeoye Falls, NY)
    . Circa AD 1625-1687
    White wampum beads (apx. 5mm, 0.10g each)
    Carved white shell beads with lateral hole for suspension in belt
    Cf. William Martin Beauchamp, Wampum and Shell Articles Used by the New York Indians, p. 369

    Found at the Dann Farm site in Honeoye Falls, NY.​
    In 1687 combined French and Huron forces, lead by the Marquis de Denonville, set out to undermine the strength of the Iriquois Confederacy. The main strike was made against Seneca villages in Western New York. Ganounata was burned during the campaign. This episode was only one in a long line of conflicts fought over control of the North American fur trade.

    Wampum was used by Native Americans in woven belts of white and black beads. The white beads were crafted from the columella of the Channeled Whelk, the black from the quahog. Traditionally, wampum belts were used as a ceremonial object to initiate a trade contract. It was only with the coming of the Europeans that wampum began to function as coinage. In 1673, New York state officially set the value of wampum at six white beads to the Dutch stuiver, or three black until they fell out of use. ​
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    UNITED STATES, Native proto-currency. Northern Pacific coast. 18th-early19th century
    Shell “kop-kop” (29mm by 6mm, 0.38 g)
    Tubular shell of the dentalium genus of mollusks
    Robert Stearns, Ethno-conchology: A Study of Primitive Money p. 314-321

    Ex Detroit Museum of Art

    Kop-kops were smaller or damaged pieces of hi-qua shells and circulated as a fraction of the hi-qua. Use of this shell type as currency ranged from northern California to Alaska.​
     
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  6. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Irish halfpennies were a constant in American change:

    Charles II

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    James II

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    More James II

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    George II

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    The latter came over in droves since they were lighter than the previous issues of halfpennies and were rejected in Ireland. These coins coupled with the Rosa Americana issues were banned in some colonies like Massachusetts-Bay.

    George II Rosa Americana Penny

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    Not really a foreign coin persay, but rejected by the populace as though it was.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Great educational thread guys! Thanks for initiating it, Dave, and welcome to the forum.....
     
  8. jlblonde

    jlblonde Señor Member

    The following coins were found on a dig in New England I believe.

    ENGLAND - Penny - 1560 to 1561
    Silver, 0.5g, 15.2mm, Mint: Tower (2nd issue), Ruler: QEI 1558-1603
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    ENGLAND - Half Groat - 1594 to 1596
    Silver, 0.9g, 17.5mm, Mint: Tower, Ruler: QEI 1558-1603
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    ENGLAND - Half Penny - 1592? to 1595?
    Silver, 0.3g, 14.7mm, Mint: Tower, Ruler: QEI 1558-1603
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    SAXON - Penny - 978? to 1035?
    Silver, 0.5g, 16.4mm, Ruler(s): Aethelred 978-1016 or Cnut 1016-1035
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    ENGLAND - Groat - 1560 to 1561?
    Silver, 1.3g, 20mm, Mint: Tower, Ruler: QEI 1558-1603
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  9. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    The rolled coin was taken apart by archeologists(hates dem hobbits :mad:).
     
  10. stoneyknoll

    stoneyknoll New Member

    Cape Jellison I duit coin 1.jpg Cape Jellison I duit coin 2.jpg This 1735 Dutch VOC duit was recovered from a late Native American fur trade site in Mid Coast Maine, along with glass trade beads and other trade material. You can see more about this site at Stoney Knoll Archaeological Supplies Facebook page.
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stoney-Knoll-Archaeological-Supplies/146027045436328
    We plan on publishing this site in the Maine Archaeological Society next year to get it out.
     
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  11. stoneyknoll

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] This 1735 Dutch VOC duit was recovered from a late Native American fur trade site in Mid Coast Maine, along with glass trade beads and other trade material. You can see more about this site at Stoney Knoll Archaeological Supplies Facebook page.
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stoney-Knoll-Archaeological-Supplies/146027045436328
    We plan on publishing this site in the Maine Archaeological Society next year to get it out.
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  12. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Oddly enough one of my cooks sisters was walking one day where the city had been replacing a major road and bent down and picked up a VOC penny. I am trying to find the newspaper article now.
     
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  13. stoneyknoll

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    Very cool.
    After finding the duit at my site, I have been trying to get a handle on how common they are in the archaeological recorded in the east coast, US... not very it seems. I'm guessing it was valued by the Native Americans for the copper raw material. The 1734 date on the coin is about the same age as the fur trade site it was found in, which I figure is ca. 1740.
    What city was the VOC, that you mentioned, found in?
     
  14. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    I just found the article and it was a George II farthing. Also seems to have been tossed out of a car window as it was found on the surface and without much underground damage.

    Whoops
     
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