Can anyone help me identify/provide a picture of a coin?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by zaneman, Dec 17, 2006.

  1. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I saw what I believe was a thaler, and depicted on the coin was a cloud with a hand coming out, holding a watering can. That's all I can remember about it:confused: :confused:
     
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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Hey Zane, do you have any idea of the approximate date, or country of issuance[​IMG]

    "Thaler" covers a lot of pages in several volumes of Krause! :rolleyes:
     
  4. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I believe it was from the 16th or 17th century. I know Thalers encompass a lot! I was hoping maybe someone just happened to know off of the top of their head what coin it was.
     
  5. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Zane,
    Someone on the forum posted a pic of a thaler with a big cloud on it a while ago.I don't remember a hand or watering can on it but if I recall,it had rays coming down and the obverse had a man and woman.Anyone remember this?
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

  7. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Here's the picture from that thread. [​IMG]
     
  8. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    I didn't know that Martians made thalers!

    :)
     
  9. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Wonderful! I love that design. I wonder what inspired the design.
     
  10. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

  11. Ian

    Ian Coin Collector

    I can't think of any taler i've seen that matches the description, however i do know that htere is one (perhaps two) french jetons with that theme. The one that immediately sprang to mind was issued by the `tresor royal' in 1706 (part of the king's administration). here's a pic of it, but it's not too brilliant i'm afraid. I have the actual jeton somewhere in my collection, but it's late at night here so i'll just have to check some other time.
     

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  12. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Wow..the jeton meister Ian hits it on the head again.
    So I followed the leader to try and find a clearer photo and stumbled on this:
    Maybe they were issued by"le department" of cuteness,watering cans,clouds ,sunshine and flowers.
     

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  13. Ian

    Ian Coin Collector

    Actually, you got pretty close to another one very similar. The Chambre aux Deniers (another department of the king's administration) DID issue a jeton with a celestial watering can on it very similar to the one already mentioned! Theirs was was dated 1687 with the legend `Cunctis Dat Vivere', as opposed to the `Alit Viresque Ministrat' of the Tresor Royal. There was also an undated `stock' jeton struck in latten during the same time frame, so celestial watering cans appear to have been pretty popular with the king's administration from about 1680 - 1710. I don't have either of them, but one watering can is enough for me anyway. ;)

    I dug out my example of the `celestial watering can' as weilded by Groth the Green Skinned of Mars. Maybe I shouldn't have bothered. Maybe Santa will bring me a better quality scanner in a week from now. I live in hope.
     

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