Ancient - Elagabalus Die Match?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Bing, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I bought another Elagabalus AE coin this week from one of my favorite dealers in GB. The portrait on this new coin looks like a die match to another Elagabalus AE coin I purchased from her a few months ago.

    First, my newest coin:

    Elagabalus AE27
    OBV: AV K M AVRH ANTWNEINOC, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right
    REV: VP NOBIOV ROVFIOV NIKOPOLITWN PROC ICTRON, Serapis standing left, holding sceptre and raising right hand
    Struck at Nikopolis ad Istrum under Legate Rufus, 218-222 AD
    12.22g, 27mm
    Moushmov 1443
    Elagabulus11.jpg
    Now, my other coin, same mint, AE26
    Struck at Nikopolis ad Istrum under Legate Rufus, 218-222 AD
    14.13g, 26mm
    Moushmov 1433
    Elagabulus8.jpg
     
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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I agree. Which of the two was struck first? I think I see a clue.
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't see the clue. I see the wear difference. Perhaps the "K" might signal that the first coin above was the second coin struck?
     
  5. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    I believe the second was the first coin struck.
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    If there is a die break at the K and the eagle coin shows it less severely broken, then that coin would seem to be earlier. Now the challenge is to find another coin with no break in that location and another with a break twice the size of the worst here. I have known people who specialized in broken dies.
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Ha! I was correct then. Maybe I'm getting better at this. But then again.....

    I'll be keeping my eyes open for another match. Thanks Doug
     
  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Patience may well lead you to finding die matches now that you are looking for them.

    This one isn't mine but a double die match to our eagle.

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  9. randygeki

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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That's a great find Martin. I'm not so certain I am very good at identifying die matches. This one was rather easy for me, but I will be looking. Hmm, where did you find that reverse?
     
  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice coins. Always fun to find die matches.
     
  12. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  15. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here is a double die match to your other coin from WildWinds:-

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    Another obverse die match from WW

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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Great new coin, Bing => congrats, my friend!!

    Sadly, I am the worst at die-matching and/or spotting the difference ...


    spotthedifference.jpg

    ... but "enjoy" (I admit that it is a valuable life/coin-skill)


    => I wish that I was far more patient ... and/or had far more spare time!! (congrats, again!!)
     
  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i'm also horrible at picking them out...but like seeing them when someone shows me...pretty nice coins everyone.
     
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