Strange Double Struck 1944 Cent

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  1. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    Looks very cool :)
     
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  3. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Nice pick up Matt!
     
  4. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    No offense Matt but this one kinda looks homemade to me. it just has too many warning signs like the word liberty being too mushy looking on the last strike. I hope I'm wrong and as you know I have been wrong a few times. everyone goofs up every now and then. I remember a coin a few months back that had the same type tiny letters in between the original letters but can't remember what it turned out to be. now days we have to be careful because about any knowlegable crook can make anything they want to. this coin will be a good one for us to learn from.
     
  5. playpossum0985

    playpossum0985 Global Cooling Protester

    What is remaining of the upper part of the "C"on the reverse could use some explaining, very interesting coin, you scored!
     
  6. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    It's definitely genuine Rascal.
     
  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Crazy coin. I love it.
     
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  8. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    You may be right . whether real or fake it has been struck three times. on the obverse side the word WE is visible three times and the second strike of the word TRUST was completely wiped out. all that is visible of the first strike is part of the words WE and TRUST. the two sets of the words IN GOD that are visible are from second and third strike. where the coin is a little larger than normal in diameter makes it a little suspicious but weird things can happen. I wish you good luck with it and I like these weird error coin. the two really weird ones I showed on here both of them were real except one was labeled wrong in my opinion . this shows we can always learn new things.
     
  9. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I've been following Mike's comments over on the Yahoo group. Looks like you've got an interesting one here.
     
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  10. maverickx31

    maverickx31 Member

    What a cool looking cent! Please post follow-ups!
     
  11. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian


    Mind posting a link to this "Yahoo group"? I'd like to hear what others are saying, thanks.
     
  12. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Matt nice error!:)
     
  13. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey


    It's a private Yahoo group headed up by Mike Diamond, so to the best of my knowledge there is not a way to direct link to it.
     
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  14. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian


    Any way you could relay his comments here? I'd like to hear his explanation...
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    ME 3!
     
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  16. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    just google yahoo coin group , I think about anyone can join the group if they want to. It said the group was for new and old coin collectors to learn about error coins.
     
  17. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    guys do any of you remember a coin we were discussing on CT a while back like say somewhere around 6 months or maybe longer that had tiny letters like this one between the letters of the normal letters ? these tiny letters on the coin looks to me like they had been added to the die before the strike but I'm getting old and don't see as good as I once did. I can't remember for sure where I saw a similar struck coin with the unusal letters , I believe it was on this forum. Matt sure has found a weird one and a good looking one to learn from.
     
  18. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Matt is sending me the coin. There might be evidence of a third strike on the reverse, but it's hard to tell from the photos. It does look as if there is a major horizontal misalignment of the reverse (anvil) die on the second strike. This is an extremely rare error requiring the collar to break apart or break free of its moorings. A horizontal misalignment of the anvil die requires the coin to be struck out-of-collar, which is the case here, at least on the second strike.

    If this proves to be the case, I'd love to write it up for Coin World and, if possible, add it to my collection.

    As for my group, it's open to the public for browsing. To post messages or photos, you need to join (that's simple and free). The link is:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/errorcoininformationexchange/
     
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  19. SPP Ottawa

    SPP Ottawa Numismatist

    I think I have a similar error in a Canadian 1-cent, but the second strike out of collar is a bit more 'out there' or offset. I see similar features, especially with missing elements of the devices in the second strike and outlines of the devices from the first strike. 1c_1963_double_struck_obv.jpg 1c_1963_double_struck_rev.jpg 1c_1963_double_struck_1.jpg 1c_1963_double_struck_2.jpg 1c_1963_double_struck_3.jpg
     
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  20. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Your Canadian cent is an ordinary double strike, with the second strike off-center. In a misaligned second strike, only one face is offset.
     
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  21. SPP Ottawa

    SPP Ottawa Numismatist

    How would the dies go that far out of alignment, in sequential strikes?? Or are we looking at a triple struck coin, with dies that were already mis-aligned??
     
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