I picked this up on eBay tonight and was wondering what everyone thought of the toning. The obvious reason for a details grade is the planchet flaw but do you think it has artificial toning? Would PCGS list both as problems? Thanks for the help.
I was watching the same one, congrats on the win. Personally I think it is NT, but I am not the Nickel expert... let's see if gbroke weighs in, I'd trust his take on it.
I don't trust the color saturation on the images, so who knows what it may look like in-hand. Regardless, PCGS and NGC place a notation on problem slabs, but that does not mean they place all their notations on the slab. Therefore, it is not safe, in my opinion, to assume that there are no other issues with such coins.
I don't see anything that screams "AT"; however, the pastel-like colors are rarely seen on early-dated Jeffies. The toning is very similiar to the wild toned '61 and '62 Proofs, so the coin may have had a Mint-related impurity that caused the toning. By the way, aren't "Planchet Flaws" Mint-related problems and not PMD? Why would that net a Details grade?
I do not think PCGS or NGC would slab a coin if they thought it was articial toning. interesting colors by the way.
That toning looks to me like it was applied with a spoon. What is the planchet flaw? The messy area next to Jeff's face?
Yes, they are mint related problems. In fact planchet flaws are there before the coin is even struck. But damage is damage and it doesn't matter if it was damage to the planchet (pre strike) or damage done during the strike, or damage done while the coins were being bagged at the mint, or even post strike damage. Damage is still damage no matter when or where it occurs. And damage is a reason for a coin to be put in a problem coin slab and not graded. If you look at the slab, see that 93, that is the PCGS code for a planchet flaw. These are the reasons and codes that PCGS for problem coins - No Grades PCGS will not grade and encapsulate any coins with the following problems: 82Filed RimsRim(s) and/or edge is filed. 83Peeling LaminationPotential for sealing damage. 84Holed and/or PluggedAny filled or non-filled hole. 86 No Opinion – our experts are unable to determine a coin’s authenticity – fee not refunded 87 Not Eligible For Service Selected – the coin is too valuable for the chosen service level – fee refunded 90 Questionable Authenticity – the coin is most likely a counterfeit. 91|N-1 Questionable/Artificial Toning (or Questionable Color for copper) 92|N-2 Cleaned – surface damage due to a harsh, abrasive cleaning 93|N-3 Planchet Flaw - Metal impurity or defect in the planchet – depends on severity 94|N-4 Altered Surface - Whizzed, harsh cleaning, thumbed over (using a pasty substance to cover defects or alter the appearance). 95|N-5 Scratch - depends on the severity of the scratch. Rim dent. 96|N-6 No Service – coins we do not certify (i.e. medals, some privately made issues, etc.) or cannot certify (i.e. over-sized coins) 97|N-7 Environmental Damage – i.e. corrosion, coating (lacquer), excessively heavy toning, etc. 98|N-8 Damage – deliberate surface damage, i.e. graffiti, spot(s) removed, etc. – depends on severity 99|N-9 PVC (Poly-Vinyl-Chloride) – a plasticizer used to produce vinyl that will leach out of the holder and onto the coin, eventually damaging the surfaces.
