Large cent coronet 1847

Just wanting to see what grade and value you would assign to this coin. Bought it for twenty dollars and thought it was a steal or atleast a good deal. Hope you agree.

Thanks for your time
Larry

 

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Actually I think it's a braided hair , but you did alright.

 

VF details coin. I personally wouldn't have bought it for $20...just save up for a problem-free one, they aren't too expensive.

 

The fact that it still shines made it hard for me to put it down. But I guess the details aren't the best. Still there is no corrossion. I could live with vf. Oh and Durham your right about the braided hair. My mistake.

 

Actually it kind of looks like what we used to do to our pennies when I was a kid with a pencil eraser.

 

the date on this one is very crooked. It should be diagnostic for an N number.

 

Furham it certainly seems possible that this coin was cleaned and allowed to retain some luster. Rubbudo what do you mean by N number?

 

There is also a die crack above the M. There is also a die crack, below star 1 , from dentils to near bust

 

Wow I can't believe I didn't notice all these things. Do these factors add or subtract value on this coin. Could the slant on the date be caused by the way the picture was taken ? This photo was taken under a magnafying lens.

 

IMO, N22 R3 These numbers come from reference books. Thanks to the decades of study, of die marriages of large cents ,by the authors. I think you got a bargain.

 

for $20 I like it would add it to the $20 large cent set in a heartbeat

 

I agree with vf details. personally I like a chocolate brown color toning on the large cents.

 

"Shines"?

 

How do I find out what this is?

 

There are several books, but they can be pricey. I came to my opinion from, http//images,goldbergauctions.com/...ng=1&sale=62 Scroll down to Dan Holmes collection us large cents. Scroll down to end of page, click on page 5, scroll down to N22 R3 and you will find the info. on your coin. This site is helpful, but if you are collecting large cents you NEED to have a reference book !! I hope this helped you, Dave

 

yes, from the cleaning.

 

I would put the grade at 15 net 7 for the harsh cleaning, that 'shiny' you see on the coin is very undesirable and is in no way natural and is certainly not luster.

The variety is a 47 N13 in middle die state, not N22. The N22 has a die crack over MER as well, but the N13 die crack over MER is different. If you notice the top of R in america actually has a thick crack on top of it making the the letter slightly taller. The variety is R4, so it's considered very scarce although in this grade and condition there is no premium.

As for getting into collecting these by variety the Dan Holmes Late Date catalog is a wonderful resource. The best attribution book for these is by Bob Grellman, 'Die Varieties of United States Large Cents 1840-1857' and it's available from the author for I believe $100 postage paid. While that may seem expensive, the information in the book can easily pay for itself many times over.

 

The die crack below star 1 from dentils to near bust, make it N22 The die crack can be seen on this coin.

 

It can be tough on low grade coins with blurry pictures, but based on what I can see the obverse of this coin is not an N22. On an N22 the 1 and the 4 are inbedded in the bust and the lower curl of the hair respectively, on an N13 they are not as on the OPs coins. Additionally, the 7 is close to the dentil and that dentil dots the 7, on the N22 the 7 is further away from the dentil. Additionally, the cracks over MER on an N22 never become very strong whereas the cracks on N13 are heavy as on the OPs coin.

I see what you think is a die crack on the obverse by star 1, I honestly think it's not a die crack and it's either an artifact from the blurry picture or some leftover damage from the cleaning. All the other attribution points, like the date position and the heavy crack at MER are against an N22.

Again, it's tough to attribute a lower grade coin with blurry pictures, and we can agree to disagree, but based on the date position and the cracking on the reverse I am fairly sure it's an N13.

 

Not bad, got a great deal on that since they go for apx. $25 in VF condition