Position A, vs B I suppose, what is the deal with that? Searching the net didn't help much These guys **** http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/417245 **** can't even figure out what year the coin is? "Jaime Hernandez: Position A:The 2009-P Fillmore Dollar with Position A indicates the edge lettering of the coin reads up-side-down when the President's portrait faces up. Facts: Millard Fillmore was the 13th President of the United States. Therefore, the Millard Fillmore Presidential Dollar was the thirteen different design issued in the Presidential Dollar coin Program. Release Date: The 2009 Fillmore Presidential Dollars were officially released by the U.S. Mint on February 18, 2010. " I have a few roll of these straight from the fed. What should I look for? Are these edge impressed coins supposed to have the same position?
The position (A or B) of the edge lettering on circulation presidential dollars is totally random and means nothing.
That is what I was thinking. My first roll was 10 to 15. Why do they split it up that way? And were there 2009 dated coins or is PCGS just on crack ?
After striking, the coins are tossed into a hopper then get dumped into the edge lettering machine. How they fall is random. No one is lining them up.
That is your opinion. A "REAL" collector can choose what they like to collect. I personally wouldn't bother myself with this type of trivial "error" (ironic, seeing as how I look for minor doubled dies). As rickmp said, it is totally random.
Not trying to discourage you but I would recommend focusing on a few well documented varieties at a time instead of trying to find some new, rare variety. I am still reading as much as I can about doubled dies and the basic key dates, focusing on pennys and nickels right now. I still keep my eyes open for unusual things but I know the odds of finding a coin that will give me an early retirement are pretty slim lol.
Seems that in countries where edge inscriptions are uncommon or new, this differentiation is relevant among some collectors. In other countries (that have had lettered edges for a long continuous period of time) people don't really care. See here: http://www.cointalk.com/t229399/#post1727162 Christian
This was in response to ignorance over what direction the lettering should be. Read this page: PCGS Announcement Keep in mind that edge lettering on coins had not occurred for nearly 100 years which is well beyond the memories of most folks. Heck, some people today don't know that half dollars were ever made! Anyway, back when these coins first started appearing, there was a group of ignorant (or really really smart scammers) that were selling the different orientation coins as US Mint Errors or "Upside Down Edge Lettering Errors". They were receiving some hefty premiums until it was understood that the lettering on the edges was determined by random chance and that either orientation was correct. Throw the missing edge lettering Washingtons into the mix and eBay was literally ALIVE with folks spending money on the so called "upside down edge lettering". eBay went so far as to automatically delete any listing that stated the words "upside down edge lettering". To make a long story short, at the time, there was a need and as PCGS stated in their announcement, the different orientations are in fact different varieties. If you or anybody else doesn't want to collect each Position A and Position B, that's the collectors prerogative. I expect that when these coins become used in everyday commerce, then perhaps interest will pick up once again. But that doesn't have anything to do with the subject unless you address the edge lettering as a collectible variety.
I wouldn't say so. All of the early lettered edge large cents, half dollars, and bust dollars all came with both letter orientations as well and I don't know a single collector who feels he has to have both orientations for each variety. And those orientations are never mentioned on the PCGS slabs either. (I think PCGS was the only TPG that bothered to list edge orientation and they don't do it consistently.) The only edge errors I consider worth while are no edge lettering, multiple edge lettering, lettering over inverted edge lettering, wrong year edge lettering, and out of sequence edge lettering on the 2007 S proofs.
