I would like to know pillar dollar grading

Hi :smile, can you help me with that cuestion?

Thanks.

 

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Are you sure that coin is genuine?

 

Absolutely.

 

How have you determined that this is a genuine coin?

 

Because my knowledge in this area is very poor, what makes you question if the coin is legitimate? Is it the details of the coin or rarity?

 

My English is bad so I'll be shorten. This coin has "plata agria" to the right of "VTRAQUE" (I don't know how to say in english), light surface marine corrosion and the edge has all correct.
I would like to know what is the grading in the Shelton Scale, please.

 

I agree the edge looks correct. We are just nervous about these since SO MANY have been faked. I do not see anything obviously saying this one is false.

For a grade, I would say AU55 or so, but it may not grade. The light surface corrosion might mean it cannot grade, and instead be in a details slab. This means it WOULD HAVE graded a 55, but it is damaged.

 

Thanks for your opinion, Medoraman.

 

Np. Its a pretty pillar dollar. I do not think any of mine are this high of grade.

I would sir suggest you make sure you check its weight, size, all of the things we cannot do by picture. There are some really high quality fakes of these. It looks good from what I can see from a pic, but I could do more with a coin in hand.

 

The weight is 26'55 gr., considering the corrosion I see right it. As I said I haven't doubt about its authenticity, I only wanted to know your opinions about the grading.

PS: I apologize for my bad english.

 

Try contacting Daniel Sedwick at www.sedwickcoins.com. He has a good pulse of the market for these.

 

Which?

 

I know what I think about my coin. I want to know is which details you refer. Do not you put it with photos of other coins. Is very easy to say that a coin is a fake but you must to explain how you came that conclusion.

"La plata agria" (I say again that I don't know how it say in english) is a irrefutable evidence of authenticity.

 

I agree GD, but hesitated to comment that opinion as the OP is 100% certain of it's authenticity.

 

Assuming the coin is authentic, it would likely grade XF details, possibly AU details. Neither of the two large USA grading companies would put this coin in a problem-free holder because it has salt water corrosion.

 

looks like a cast from the edge

 

Not going to comment on authenticity, since pillars are not my forte, but I can clarify what "plata agria" is. This term in Spanish numismatics refers to areas of visible planchet stress marks. This can be often seen on weakly struck coins, or coins struck on planchets of uneven thickness. If you can imagine, when silver bars were rolled out to the right thickness, before planchets were punched out of that sheet, the surface of the metal was covered in stress marks from the pressure that metal experienced during this process. These stress marks were eliminated when the coin was struck except in cases I mentioned above. These stress marks are areas of "plata agria". By the way, I don't see this occurring on the originally posted coin.

Some examples:

Look at the area on the obverse near the first two digits of the date:



Here's another example. Plata agria on the obverse right field:



~Roman.