Chinese? Vietnamese? silver 'coins' tokens? Any thoughts?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by coin0709, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    They each way exactly 0.54 oz and have what I think are Chinese stamp on the bottom. Any help would be much appreciated.

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  3. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

  4. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Would clearer images of the stamp marks help to authenticate? Or must I take it to a specialist?
     
  5. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    You might send a private message to magicman58 for advice. One time magicman58 helped me with questions regarding bullet money. I suspect he is what you would consider an expert and he is a CoinTalk member (although I have not seen him at CoinTalk for some time). You coulld also email him at @hotmail.com
     
  6. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Thanks Collect89. I will email him and update this thread if I hear from him. In the meantime, please, others chime in. Thanks all.
     
  7. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Yep Thai bullet money, fer sure.
     
  8. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    magicman58 replied to my email and fully identified each of these. They are silver Bangkok Dynasty Thai 1 Baht bullet coins. One is a King Rama I (1782-1809) w/ Unalom symbol. The other is a King Rama III (1824-1851) w/ Prasat symbol. Thanks all for steering me in the right direction.
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Sorry I didn't see this thread. I answered you on the other thread about the Prasat Rama III coin. I have a few dozen of these, and every major issue from all of the Rama's and some Ayuddhya issues.
     
  10. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    thanks medoraman. Based on my Krause guide, some are worth more than others. Estimated value on each in their condition?
     
  11. medoraman

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    You grade these by the markings. Yours appear F or so. Both are the commoner marks, on commoner kings, so if these are 1 baht pieces, (15 grams), I try to buy them around $25 per if I can. I am pretty cheap though, and already have quite a few. I have seen pieces like this go between $20 and $45 on Ebay.

    Btw I can tell by the photos yours are legit. The fakers do not manufacture them the same way the Thais originally did, so one of the keys to authenticating them is at the bend in the metal.
     
  12. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Great. Good to know. Did you happen to see my 5 Tael 'packsaddle' Sycee I posted yesterday? Thats a cool piece.
     
  13. medoraman

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    Yes it is, but the Chinese have been faking these for over a century. The more ornate a sycee is, the higher the chance of it being a fake. Honestly, you would need an attribution from a recognized expert in these to maximize and value from them. The only sycee I own I only bought from large reputable firms because fakes are so good.

    If authentic, that piece is quite valuable.
     
  14. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Excellent advice. I'm going to take your advice and go to the Whitman Show in Baltimore this weekend. Hopefully someone there can give me an honest assessment/authentication. I've seen them go from $1,000 to $60,000. 'packsaddles' are on the lower end right?
     
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