1922 no d weak reverse

whats it worth. ngc g6bn

 

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My understanding is that only die pair 2 is worth the high premium.

http://www.lincolncentresource.com/1922Ddievarieties.html

 

I wouldn't pay much more than the value of an (ordinary) 22D in the same condition.

 

Pricing is quite variable, but something around $200 - $250.

And, stinkycat, they have gone for as much as $30,000. I would definitely call that a premium.

 

Thank you

 

Are you talking about a weak "D"? They are only worth a small premium (maybe double the 22-D), but the no "D"'s carry a nice premium even for the weak reverse.

 

Always, buy what you like. I'm all for it.
IMO any TPG that tries to call a G6 coin a "no D" is being irresponsible. It is just as likely that the G6 coin we're discussing started life as a MS weak D and was worn down to G6 no D. I've seen 22s sell on ebay for big dollar that are not die pair 2. All I'm saying is I wouldn't pay big dollar for anything but pair 2, because anything but die pair 2 isn't worth big dollar. Only my opinion. And again, buy what you like.

 

Quoting from The Official Red Book, A Guide Book of Lincoln Cents, Under 1922-D, No D (Plain), Key to Collecting,

"Buy only coins from die pair No. 2. Avoid all others, which are simply "Weak D" coins."
And,
"Buying a 1922 Plain from a leading certification service, and only from die pair No. 2, is strongly suggested."

Buy the book before you buy the coin, buy the coin, not the slab.

 

Believe as you wish, but The Official Red Book does not say that. The Complete Guide to Lincoln cents does not say that. NGC certifies them. PCGS certifies them. Heritage sells them for the prices I cited. eBay sells them for the prices I cited. And even you cited reference does not say that (http://www.lincolncentresource.com/1922Ddievarieties.html).

 

Did you read what is says at lincolncentresource? Did you look at it? It clearly sates only die pair 2 can be a "true" no D. Also, I quoted directly from The Red Book Guide book of Lincoln Cents. Don't have one? Get one, at least if you are going to claim "it does not say that". PCGS Coin facts and price guide only list info on, guess what, Die Pair 2. I'm fully aware of the premiums paid for 22 no Ds. Only die pair 2 (strong reverse) commands the high premium.
The other die pairs are worth a premium, but no where near the premium for die #2, and remember, we're talking about a G6! At least we were originally.

 

lincolncentresource says "The 1922 “plain” or “no d” can be produced from four different die pairs. Die Pairs #1, #3 and #4 produce either a “weak D” or a “No D”. Die Pair #2, which is the most desirable of the four die pairs, always produces a “No D”." The word "true" is not on that page. And, yes, die pair #2 is "the most desirable".

And I never said what The Red Book Guide book of Lincoln Cents said or did not say. I referenced The Official Red Book and The Complete Guide to Lincoln Cents.

Maybe the difference we are having is the definition of your term "high premium". I consider $200 for a G6 Lincoln a "high premium". Of the normal definition of a set for Lincolns, only the 1922- strong reverse, 1955- DDO, and 1909-S VDB command a higher premium. Since I consider the 14-D, 09-S, and 31-S as also commanding a high premium, I definitely include the 1922- no "D" weak reverse as commanding a high premium.

 

Let me say this. $200 for a no D die #2 in G6 might be a fair price. $200 for for a no D die # 3 in G6 would not. :dead-horse:

I'm willing to agree to disagree. Whew! I hope we can do this again!:yes:

 

I will take all the no D die #2 in G6 you can get me for $200. On Heritage, they go for $500 to $630. The prices I got for the G6 weak reverse also came from Heritage. If you don't believe me, look it up.

 

I found out what it was worth. It sold for 245.00

 

Kind of sounds familiar to me. Very good!

 

This is a perfect example of why we should "buy the book before you buy the coin"!

 

I disagree that the 1922 no D weak reverse is worth no premium. If they were not then PCGS and NGC would not certify them. Dies 1, 3 and 4 are regularly found struck from heavily worn dies with no trace of the "D" remaining and do indeed carry a premium. The PCGS price guide states as much and shows a value of $375 for a G6 example of the 1922 no d weak reverse if certified by PCGS. By contrast a 1922 Weak D in G6 is worth $75 in the PCGS price guide. I would call that a premium.

Die 2 coins were struck from dies that were never believed to contain a D in any stage so have stronger features and were given the name "strong reverse".

There is no dispute from me that die 2 strong reverse '22's with carry the highest premium, but that does not mean that weak reverse ones are by any means worthless.

 

who is this directed at? Can you elaborate on this statement?

 

Mostly me. He has a book that says says "Buy only coins from die pair No. 2. Avoid all others, which are simply "Weak D" coins." and does not think NGC, PCGS, Heritage, the rest of the Lincoln collectors should, and especially me should believe otherwise.

 

Well his understanding was dead wrong lol. His last statement seems to look like he misspoke and I will be happy to fix that for him

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