Does anyone here collect slave tags?

Hey gang!

I have come across 3 pieces. I know there are MANY MANY fakes out there.

Does anyone know anything about these?

 

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Very interesting. I've never seen one up close before.

 

In addition to lots of fakes, there are also lots of fantasy pieces. I would be a bit suspish of one dated 1861, they pretty much stopped being used about a decade earlier.

 

http://usslave.blogspot.com/2011/06/cast-in-bondage-charleston-slave-tags.html

I'm not sure of the source above or its credibility but the first picture is of tags that have a stamped date of 1861. I hope this helps any and it is very sad that human beings were treated like this in our country's history.

 

At one time or another humans have been treated like this in every country that ever existed prior to 1960. Very sadly, although underground, in some countries it still goes on. Sex trade, blood diamonds, etc.

 

I got one for my wife. :devil:

 

I find the subject matter to be rather offensive and as such would NEVER consider collecting such a thing.

 

I agree with you in principle, but even offensive subject matter is worthy of being saved, and even if only for educational purposes.


"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

George Santayana

 

my kinda guy!

 

so if someone offered you a bunch of nazi silver or gold at a guaranteed profit later for you to make you would turn it down? i am jewish and i would buy it! now if youre going to say i would buy it because im jewish, well, no....it has nothing to do with me being jewish...i just like money, and the historical aspect is important

 

I find myself in the "caretaker of historical items" role quite often. There are a lot of pieces that I see that are thought evoking. That is what is intriguing to me about things like these. These come from a very dark part of US history... And no matter how you or I feel about them... Things like this ARE important and should be preserved so that others may learn and be provoked to think as well.

 

Very controversial but they are, in my opinion, important historical artifacts, whether you condone the practices for which they were used or not.

LostDutchman - are you 100% sure your piece is authentic? This is way out of my element, but I've seen replicas with artificial patinas VERY similar to yours.

 

I love a good cheeseburger. Having said that, I must say that I find the butchering of animals to be offensive and I would never do it myself. Boy, do I feel better. Pass the ketchup.

 

No honestly I'm not sure. After my research after posting this one I am leaning towards these being reproductions... But I'm not 100% either way.

 

"I got one for my wife"

Isn't that what John Bobbitt did?

 

Ouch!

 

Matt

Yes, there are many reproductions.

Western & Eastern Treasures has an excellent guy for id'ing these, and repros, and values.

PM me for more info

Frank

 

Yeah, I am in the same boat. I would never be a hunter, and I do feel for the animals, but I guess not enough for me to stop eating meat.
I remember a conversation with my doctor on the issues of eating too much saturated facts like in chopmeat. After she made her point, I looked her square in the eye and said. "If you are telling me eating chesseburgers will kill me then I am telling you, Lady, I'm gonna die" She never brought it up again

 

So what is she hiring you out as?

 

I just had this VERY conversation with my friend two weeks ago. She said she would never knowingly buy Nazi gold. In fact, when I said that I would buy it, as long as it was sold for a price under spot value, she was appalled. She then said "(Friend's name omitted) would NEVER do that!" So, I called him up and the three of us went to dinner. As soon as I saw him I asked, "Hey, (Friend's name omitted), would you buy Nazi gold?" He said "That depends. Is it selling below spot?" I said "Well, according to the original scenario, I think the proposition was at 50% of spot value." Original friend was smiling, thinking that I would be gonged, then my friend says: "Of course I would. Who wouldn't?" Original friend got huffy, so I pointed out to her: "Gold is gold. You melt it, and it can become something else. The gold isn't forever marked by the blood of those in the gas chambers and concentration camps. It's just gold."

So, THEN, she says "I bet you would even buy blood diamonds!" To that I said, "Probably not." She smiled and said "Good." I then explained "The reason for not buying blood diamonds is perceived versus actual value. There are enough diamonds in vaults to last over a century of jewelry production, and they're still mining them. Conflict diamonds will eventually reach the market, either as conflict diamonds or not. Regardless of whether that stigma is disclosed, the diamonds have already been extracted and reached the market. If someone were willing to give me a significant discount below mine-source pricing on the sheer basis of the diamonds being conflict diamonds, yes, I'd buy them. However, if they're the same price as regular diamonds, what's the point?"

Before I forget: Dutchie! This isn't about US Coins. (Someone said I only bug Tim about posting in the wrong section, so I figured I'd say it here.) That said, I'd probably buy one if I saw it at a show or something. We always need something to remind us of the past. Heck, I bought agent orange from a coin shop...