2013 sae

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by HOLLYWOOD, Jun 3, 2013.

  1. HOLLYWOOD

    HOLLYWOOD Active Member

    As of June 3rd approximatly 231,500 units have been ordered,And with only three days left to go before the 30 day window period of sales ends and depending on how many returns there are the 2013 reverse proof could be the 2nd lowest mintage and a first year of issue for the enhanced uncirculated sae should we buy on june 6th ?

    2006-248,875
    2011-100,000
    2012-224,981

    http://mintnewsblog.com/2013/05/west-point-silver-eagle-set-ordering-ends-next-week/ :smile
     
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  3. YoYoSpin

    YoYoSpin Active Member

    No...please do not :smile
     
  4. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Now YoYo just because you don't want the competition :)
     
  5. fusiafinch

    fusiafinch Member

    It's not just mintage, it's also demand. I think that this set will have high demand going forward because of the interesting finishes to the coin. So even if the mintage goes to 300,000, this set could still be worth more than the lower mintage sets.
     
  6. HOLLYWOOD

    HOLLYWOOD Active Member

    I don't think this set will go to 300K because sales have been quite slow and last years set had 26,321 cancelled orders ! Some collectors may cancell extra orders and some fence-sitters may opt not to place orders.

    2006-20th Anniversary Silver Eagle Sets 248,875
    2011-25th Anniversary Silver Eagle Sets 100,000
    2012-75th Anniversary San Francisco Mint Sets 224,981

    2012 S.F. Silver Eagle's Set Daily Sales Figures .
    http://mintnewsblog.com/2012/07/san-francisco-silver-eagle-set-sales-reach-251302/

    Only two more day's to go,Total sales figures to date 233,378

     
  7. aronsamma

    aronsamma Active Member

    any thoughts on whether this would be a decent investment?
     
  8. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    I ordered mine. I figure at that price it's a reasonable gamble. I've seen a reverse proof and it's lovely. I'm pretty excited to see the enhanced too. I plan on keeping these in my bullion coin collection, not reselling.
     
  9. HOLLYWOOD

    HOLLYWOOD Active Member

    The secondary market sets the value,It depends on the supply & demand at the time that you sell it get in early !

    2006 Three coins Mint Price $100 Raw Sets http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...t&_nkwusc=2006+20th+anniversay+ase+set&_rdc=1

    2011 Five coins Mint Pice $299.95 Raw Sets http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...0&_nkw=2011+25th+anniversary+ase+set&_sacat=0

    2012 Two coins Mint Price $150 Raw Sets http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...h+anniversary+mint+set&_sacat=11116&_from=R40

    Guess the final mintage 215K

     
  10. fusiafinch

    fusiafinch Member

    You're probably right. If people haven't ordered it by now, they probably won't get it. The collectors with peak interest have already ordered.


    Speculating on Mint products has never been a decent investment. You can get lucky, but most times not. I am getting a set because I love the finish and I probably won't think of selling it for years. Those who do profit from Mint products generally buy consistently and many products, so when they do hit a winner, it's icing on the cake.
     
  11. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    get one for yourself because they are beautiful - these are not money makers
     
  12. aronsamma

    aronsamma Active Member

    Thanks guys. I'm interested in getting one just to have it, but I'll probably just buy one broken up from the set in a little while and hope the price doesn't go up in the mean time.
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Using Hollywoods links, and looking at the completed sales that actually sold, AND only looking at raw set (which is what you get from the mint) it looks like

    2006 three coin sets OP $100 are selling from $300 to $350 3 to 3.5 times issue price

    2011 five coin sets OP $300 are selling for $600 to $650 2 to 2.15 times issue price

    2012 two coin sets OP $150 are selling for $160 to $200 or 1.06 to 1.33 times issue price.

    With the way the trend is going I would be skeptical as to how well the 2013 set will do. It does have the enhanced finish piece going for it which has not appeared in any other set which may help it do better. But if later sets have pieces with that finish as well it may draw down the cashe of the 2013 set. On the earlier sets graded sets do sell for more, but on the other hand you then have the additional cost for slabbing the coins (slabbing fees plus S&H both ways) that has to be added to the issue price. if you get 70's then you will probably do well, but if you get lower grades it probably won't improve the price multipliers mentioned above.
     
  14. sodude

    sodude Well-Known Member

    It takes a while to work off the initial oversupply. That's one reason the 2012 set has barely budged from the initial price. Everyone could buy as many as they wanted at issue price last year; so they got their fill. Gradually the supply will dry up and new buyers will emerge.
     
  15. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Those are low prices for the 2011 & 2012 compared to the 2006! So, what’s going on? The 2011 is a much better set than the 2006 – 2 unique coins at a much lower mintage than the 1 unique coin in the 2006 set. The 2011 set may need more time to realize it’s potential, since it was a more recent offering with sales concentrate in a few flippers’ hands, so there’s still plenty on the market. The 2012, well it’s still too new.

    One problem with those prices is they are probably raw sets on eBay and most know 90% of those are bottom grade/problem coins. Now nice raw sets in an LCS can command much more from a buyer that knows how to grade.
     
  16. fusiafinch

    fusiafinch Member

    We're at 243,226 ordered. Only 6 hours of ordering left. So if anybody is still on the fence, now's the time!
     
  17. fusiafinch

    fusiafinch Member

    IT's OVER!!!!!!!


    True to their word, the Mint has now officially closed the ordering period. As of this moment, the total ordered is 251,695.
    This will be updated tomorrow to reflect late sales.

    I'm looking forward to getting a set.
     
  18. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    The final total will be posted on the mint's web site by 3:00 PM Eastern today. (Fri 6/7)
    After that, the numbers will have to be adjusted for cancellations and returns.


    I'm hoping that the final total is under 260K.
     
  19. fusiafinch

    fusiafinch Member


    Oooohhhh, you jinxed it !! :hail:


    Final total at Mint site is 281, 310


    That's quite a surge on the last day.
     
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