Juliio-Claudian Countermarked Quadrans

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Gil-galad, Jun 3, 2013.

  1. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    julio-claudian-countermaked-quadrans.jpg

    3.8g, 23mm

    This is another coin that I got from Eng. I'm adding it to my collection because this is my first countermarked coin, I didn't have one before. I believe it to be a Quadrans because of the weight and size. Could be Tiberius or Caligula, based on this site I read about these coins. Anything you guys want to add would be good.

    http://www.romancoins.info/Countermarks.html
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Can you tell anything from the countermark?
     
  4. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    What do you mean?

    Although, I didn't state what the countermark is. It's TI dot CA. TI-CA

    Sorry about that.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I know nothing about countermarks. I know there are collectors of just the countermark regardless of the coin. I was just wondering if you know where the countermark originated or the time period.
     
  6. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Based on the reading I've done and what that site said, the countermark is TICA, which means it could be one of two emperors or both, perhaps. That would be under Tiberius or Caligula. No one really knows for sure and I mean no one. But that is the time period, either of those two emperors.

    I don't really collect countermark coins but I wanted at least one and now I have one.
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Cool counter-mark, I love 'em (but sadly, your coin is too far gone for me to identify)
     
  8. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    That is much too large for a quadrans. It is an as, probably a moneyer as of Augustus, on which this countermark was usually applied.
     
  9. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I think it's too light in weight to be an As. It's also very thin and that's why it's larger. It was flattened out during the counterstamp process, more than likely.

    Quadrans weighs in the range of 2.5-4g. An As is in the range of 8-12g.
     
  10. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    But the low weight is precisely the reason why these were countermarked. Only asses (or perhaps dupondii as well) received this countermark.
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The majority of the c/m coins of this period I have seen strike me as unofficial. That supports the theory that they were marked as approval to circulate but possibly at a reduced rate.
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    Any guesses what AD on this Claudius meant?
     
  12. HoldingHistory

    HoldingHistory Active Member

    I am certain that it is an As. Quadrans are far smaller than that. Usually these marks are attributed to Tiberius to the best of my knowledge.

    Nathan
    www.RomanCoinAuctions.com
     
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