I like Cleaned Coins and you should to thread

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mrbrklyn, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Touché, my good friend. I've been meaning to get one of those jobs, too, but I'm fussy about the country. Besides, I'm up for career advancement, from drive-up window to indoors-cashier. That's where the real money is in this racket. :)
     
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  3. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    some dove dish washing soap and a soft toothpick is very good to remove gum and tarnish off of older coins. I used this on my 1831 Half Dollar and it worked very well. I brought it for $60 and sold it for 110.
     
  4. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    But you didn't answer his question. Does it make him a fraud for listing a cleaned coin and describing it as such?
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I didn't answer that question because I consider it superfluous. How could he possibly be considered a fraud if he lists a cleaned coin and describes it as having been cleaned ?
     
  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    You ain't never gonna make it in politics. Too much sense.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well kinda, but I wouldn't quite say it that way. I've always consider myself as having sense enough not to ever become a politician to begin with. You see I have this nasty habit called telling the truth ;)
     
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  8. Aslpride

    Aslpride Active Member

    What's quick way to detected that pennies has been dipped? It has no sign of harsh cleaning, but how can I know it's a true RB instead of being dipped?
     
  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    If you can't detect it, it has never been cleaned...that is of course unless you did it yourself. I am not convinced that all cleaning will leave detectable traces.
     
  10. Aslpride

    Aslpride Active Member

    I have batch of wheats and pulled nice quality out of the batch, but some color that cause me to suspense that it was dipped or it's natural toned color? Your opinion?

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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Many, if not most, will tell you that copper cannot be successfully dipped. That is because that most of the time, and some will say all of the time, dipping copper results in a coin with an unnatural color.

    However, just like with silver coins, common sense says otherwise. Coins tone - all of them - it is the very nature of metal for it to tone, tarnish, or corrode if you prefer. And as long as a coin is exposed to the air it is going to tone, it cannot be stopped. And since we still, even today, do not have even 1 airtight coin holder or airtight method of coin storage - then all coins are and always have been exposed to the air.

    This is why it is accepted as fact that, other than Morgan dollars, just about any older silver coin that you see that is not toned - has been dipped. And since copper is far more reactive than silver, then it stands to reason that just about any older copper coin that you see that is not toned - has been dipped. And successfully so.

    Like I said, common sense.
     
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  12. Morgancoin

    Morgancoin New Member

    I don't like cleaned coins. They take away the frostiness of the silver and give it a dark and dull appearance. Cleaning coins has removed details on both the obverse and reverse of my collection. I inherited 33 sadly polished morgan and peace dollars, all of which I believed to have been cleaned from relatives that have now passed away.
     
  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    And usually yours is the most common of sense. :) I agree with 90-95% of what you say (and might be wrong about the rest), but I reserve the right to clarify. Copper is more active than silver, but not by a lot. Copper is still much less reactive than for example nickel, although we see more environmental damage to copper than to nickel. Now zinc...I don't know if I have seen many attractive zinc coins.
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I think nickel's difference is that it tends to form a tough and colorless oxide coating, which protects it from further attack.

    Zinc is a soft, reactive mess. I saw an article in our newspaper a week or two ago singing the praises of the newly-trendy zinc roof. I have no idea what they're thinking.
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Agree about the nickel, and that brings to mind aluminum coins and the aluminum oxide protective coat. Does anyone know stuff about early aluminum coins? I know there is a special presentation set of American coins made of Al back in the late 1800's. When were the first Al coins made for circulation?
     
  16. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    You have to be careful when you scrub it, though, so as to not to scratch the surface.

    Teddy
     
  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Use SoftScrub
     
  18. flathead62

    flathead62 Member

    Collect what YOU like
     
  19. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    If you use softscrub, does it not leave residue behind? Isn't a silver polish tarnix better?
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    He was being facetious.
     
  21. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    bravo bravo
     
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