:rollling:This cent looks like it has been hit with a grinder, IGWT is struck on a roll in the planchet giving it an upward pull. The reverse looks like a 006 and the 5th and 8th poles are doubled? Help....
Die wear is a "problem with the mint, minting process or devices there of" so yes it is an error. Believe me I have argued that point before. What about the other devices I am seeing?
As for the obverse, it's just heavy peripheral die deterioration. The reverse looks like RDV-005 to me.
Anything that is used is going to show wear and tear. This is an unavoidable process, and the mint doesn't even attempt the impossibility of trying to avoid it. I don't see it as a problem with the mint or minting process. When your tires start to show wear, do you consider it a manufacturers error? Having said that, I have no problem with people collecting unique forms of die deterioration. It can sometimes make for some neat novelty coins.
I'm talking about wear and tear on the dies themselves. What are the normal tolerances for the mint? If the mint sees a ridge line from deterioration form and says, "meh, no big deal", is that an error coin?
Yes, if a blank planchet is an error, then one with a ridge across the top would be an error also. They loaded this blank into the die and used it, therefore it is a product of their devices. What about the poles on the reverse?
If the tires show "wear" before they leave the manufacturing plant, then yes, that would be a manufacturer's error.
Then by your definition, a die polish line would be a mint error. The difference is that the mint would say that it was an absolute mistake on their part to let a blank planchet escape. They would say that signs of die deterioration are a normal part of the minting process and no big deal. As for the poles on the reverse, this is one of the most frequent questions that comes up about the memorial building. The seeming "doubling" of the 5th and 8th columns is actually part of the design and represents a "perspective" look at the memorial building. Those shadow "columns" are the edges of the wall immediately behind the front columns. You can see exactly what the designer had in mind if you look at this photo:
And if the dies showed wear before they even started making coins, then that would be an error in manufacturing. Then we'd have a die variety basically.
I got it about the poles. I looked at some mint cents and there were the doubled poles I thought I saw. Thanks guys. The rest I will chalk up to wear.
I got a little clearer picture of the initials and replaced the one I had in my original post. This has to be an RDV-006 transitional error. The G has a serif and a longer vertical leg.
I use a Kodak ESP office series scanner/printer. I usually use windows fax and scan to scan in my cents. Does anyone got any hints as to getting better pictures.....and heck yeah........I finally found one. Those 88's are hard to find. :hail: Which is the most scarce or rare; the 88's or the 88 D's, and do they have an 88 S?
I don't know for sure. There appears to be the horizontal bar, but the FG looks pretty far away from the base of the memorial.
That is the only thing I see that makes it a little off. Maybe the polishing? This cent does have several issues going on besides being transitional.