Didn't you read the description? It's altered outside the mint. Is that real or fake? Well you should be able to make some sort of conclusion.
Relax man, he was just making sure. If Washington was facing the other way on that coin, then they might have something. The way it is though you can tell they we're pressed together outside the Mint.
"coin shop said coin was altered outside of mint.but a great looking coin.coin looks a lot better than the pictures.washingtons head is on top of hers,his nose is sticking out by the l in liberty.you can see the united states of on top of coin" If it was real it would be worth many thousands, not $5.00.
Can you explain how it was made then? And what exactly was pressed together? If you think they pressed a quarter into a dollar think again. (Oh I do think it is a fake, and I think I know how it was made. Look at the other "errors" he is selling for a hint.)
interesting to say the least. I cant say for sure i know how they where made. But i would think that the person that made them has been at it for a while.
I would say a vice, or someone layed them on the floor and used a hammer, cracked them together, probably damaged the quarter if it was on top.
I disagree--look at the letters---they AREN'T backwards---they are pointing the same way and aren't indented--- Speedy
Heh, thats what I get for being sleepy and on the computer. Your right, they are pointing the same way, my bad. Pay attention next time Nick!! :goofer:
Bingo (of course Mike would get it.) I believe the way these are made is by putting the coin on a soft brass plate and then hitting them with a hammer. This creates an incuse image of all or part of the design. In effect a die. Then the coin is shifted in the "die" and hit again. This causes the "die" to transfer part of the image back to the coin resulting in the faint raised properly oriented image. This is the case on the other coins he is selling. On the coin in question here they created a "die" using a quarter, and then placed a dollar coin on it and hit it.
"Make a die using electroplating method off the real coin, then use a gravity hammer and portable planchet holder to re-stamp the image onto the coin, twisting it a bit so the image is off.'' "These triple hubbed die electrotypes have been made since the mid 1800s. During the mid 1800s Electrotypes were made with the intention of showing the general appearance of the original coin. Some of these electrotype coins where made at the mint. There weren't to many cameras around at that time. " "This new seller ID identifies the coin as altered and still makes $50 profit. However will the new owner also identify the coin as altered? I see no permanent marking on the coin. The same seller has already sold a altered double die for $102. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...110028801 029 Soooo the question is (a) This is a really good deal on a new specialty collecting?and we miss it. (b) The bidders didn't read the text of the description and are cursing themselves. (c) They knew exactly what they were buying and know where and how to sell it as the "real McCoy" for many times more to unsuspecting buyers." "(A) The early electrotype coins are collected. Just like some folks collect chopped trade dollars.(B) As for a bidder not reading the text that would be very unlikely. But I do have a friend that buys the silver plated fifty states quarters and thinks he's getting a great deal and that they will be worth many times what he paid for them. As a matter of fact my friend would probably buy some thing like this and hope it goes up in value. (C) I hope that's not the case. " For me....I believe we are in the gray area somewhere inbetween counterfeiting and defaceing government property. Not a very ethical way to make money... but who's to say what one can collect. bigd
I really like the name of the seller: "theydidntmakeit" A hint? I especially enjoyed the comment on this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250050574012 "slowly getting them sold.and trying to recover some of my loss." Argh...
Is it possible that some people just dont understand what "altered outside the mint" means? I mean... are there people that are willing to pay top dollar for something so stupid?
Yes, there are. The reason is easy to understand. They allow plain old greed, a powerful emotion, to overcome their sense of reason and they only see what they want to see.
