I found this today in a CWR. It looks like someone tried to scratch a design on the obverse. What I can't tell is if it is a blank planchet or if someone filed/sanded down the obverse. Please let me know if you have any thoughts. Thanks for the help.
This doesn't appear to be an error but rather extreme rare if it were an error this huge the mint would have detected it and melted the coin down.
I'm not much of an error guy but I believe this coin has been altered IMO. It could be a BP though. We will let the error experts decide this one. :thumb:
Where o where can the experts be. Maybe a sleeping under younder tree. Your coin is a misfit its plain to see . You should just give that little one to me.
Struck through late stage de cap. That is a really nice one, probably in the $20-25 range. It isn't extraordinarily rare, but it is an error nonetheless. Keep up the hunt!
Thanks everyone, non cents thank you for your input, it is always greatly appreciated. Do you think the fact someone tried to scratch a design in it will hurt the value much?
Ill gamble and say i think this happened at the mint. Reason being there seems to be little if any wear to the ring of the coin. Its just my opinion ill let the experts shoot it down as it needs to be.
If you mean the obverse (or what used to be the obverse), that is just the appearance that a die cap causes. I don't see where anyone tried to scratch in the design.
Yes, that is a very late stage die cap. Nice find!! The hammer die (obverse) struck a coin which stuck to the die. The die with the coin stuck to it continued to stike more coins. The obverse of those coins (the ones stuck by the die with the coin stuck to it) will have a mirror image of the reverse because they were struck by the reverse of the coin stuck to the die. (Everything will be reversed and the features will be incuse.) Every time the hammer die strikes another coin with the coin stuck to it the die cap (the coin stuck to the die) gets smushed and expands a little bit until it is very thin and rolls back up around the sides of the die. (At that point it looks like a bottle cap, hence 'die cap'.) The details on the die cap (the reverse ) get more and more smushed and expanded until it strikes a coin like yours. Notice the huge, faint memorial struck into the obverse of your coin. Cool find!!
Thank you Hobo, that is great information. This is the first one I have had the chance to see. I'm definitely glad I stopped to get the $2 in pennies today