proof rotated dies

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by miterman2003, Nov 30, 2006.

  1. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    Hi can anyone tell me what degree of a proof rotated die is considered normal and what degree is collectable.
    Thanks
     
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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Normal is either 180 degrees or 0 degrees, depending upon whether the intent is to produce coin orientation or medal orientation.

    "Collectible" is whatever someone wants to collect, but coins that are off by less than 5-10% usually carry no premium, and greater degrees of rotation bring greater premiums.
     
  4. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    Thanks Roy
    I have a new 2006 reverse proof eagle with a 20 degree rotation.

    Your right about what any one collects is up to the individual.
     
  5. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Pictures, please!:bow:
     
  6. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    Here is the reverse and front
     

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  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Nice!
    I would send it to NGC---to date I have only heard of one ASE that had a rotated die error----it was much more rotated---but this one is kindof cool since its one of the Rev Proofs.

    Speedy
     
  8. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    Thanks Speedy for the feedback.
     
  9. NathansCoin

    NathansCoin New Member

    NOOOOOOOO SEND IT TO PCGS<<no just kidding ,,NO DOUGHT SEND IT TO NGC ASAP. You might have your self a real life keeper. Like speedy i have only heard of one other.
     
  10. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Really? Since this one is supposed to be in coin orientation it's actually rotated about 160 degrees! :cool:
     
  11. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Neat! I wouldn't be surprised if that is worth quite a nice premium.
     
  12. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Duh.....sorry about that Roy---I think the one I heard about was 180o.

    Speedy
     
  13. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    If you hold the coin and flip it over, you should see the reverse lined up. The coin I have is how it looks on the reverse picture so wouldn't that be rotated 20o counterclockwise?
     
  14. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    I just read over at the NGC forums that 15 degree rotation is within tolerances and is not considered an error, so 20 degrees may not be either. I would ask them before I sent the coin.
     
  15. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    Thanks Becky
     
  16. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I can't tell by looking at what o this coin is rotated....if it is 20o then it is still an error---15o is the limit but 20 will be well into the area of Rotated Die Error.

    Speedy
     
  17. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    That depends on whether you flip it horizontally or vertically and whether it is in coin orientation or medal orientation.
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Speedy:
    Then the 'coin' was in a medal orientation? That would be neat.
    Frank
     
  19. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Frank
    We won't know that untill he tells us how he flips the coin---as Roy said above.

    Speedy
     
  20. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    If I hold the coin 12 to 6 o'clock flipped down and over it's right side up with a 20o counterclockwise rotation hope this helps
     
  21. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    You were right Speedy .[​IMG]

    That's a 20 degree rotation of a coin orientation reverse.
     
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