Test Your Grading---Dimes

Hey Guys
My dealer had some key dates that I wanted and I had some "extra" Silver Halves...so with silver up I decided to trade in and take a nice bit off the total.

PCI graded these coins--IMHO they were hard on them and they both might get sent back to NGC sometime.
It looks like from the last few months that PCI is getting harder on grading---my dealers sends in a good many to them but I've bought a few that I agreed with.
I've posted a good many photos of coins graded by PCI and so far we all have agreed with the grade---more than I can for ANACS.

I got a heck of a deal on the 1916-D---at least from what they have been going for on Heritage, and am really happy!
On the photo of the REV of the 16-D at the top, that is part of the slab and isn't a nick or cut like it looks.
PCI graded this one "Right" when looking at grading guides---but when looking at what NGC, PCGS, ANACS, ICG grade this date they undergraded it.


ZANE---I would really like to know what you think of the 1942/1----

I'll post the grades here after ya'll have had a chance to guess the grades.

Speedy

 

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The 42/1 dime is a VF-25/30. the 16-D is a G-4

 

I like G4 on the 16-D and VF20 on the 42/1. I agree that people should take a good look at the PCI graded coins. Maybe they're not right all the time but if you look around I think you can pick up some great deals on some of them. Remember , it's the candy not the wrapper.

 

the 1916d is GOOD and the 1942/1 is WHIZZED. If it wasnt id grade FINE maybe XFINE, But whizzing nocks it down a notch in my book.

 

Speedy:
I'd say AG for the 1916d, probably graded G-4.
The 1942/1 nice a f-15, probably graded VF-20
Nice buys.
Frank

 

Nothing is a good buy if it has been cleaned or whizzed.

 

I think the 16-d is a g-4. As for the 1942/1 I believe it is an f-12-15.

Edited. I think the coin is a 12-15, not a 25.

 

Zane
The reason I wanted your thoughts on the 42/1 is because they marked it cleaned---in person you don't see it untill you really sit there with a 10x and look really close---me and the dealer both missed it the first time looking at it.
The cleaning is an old on---at least older than 30 years---because the owner before me had the set for over 30 years and knew better than to clean it.
I also agree that its a VF coin but I would think that maybe NGC or PCGS would slab it---its retoned and the only thing pointing to cleaning is the hairlines---I'm thinking that NGC might slab it as a cross over to one of their slabs and market grade it F.
I wanted it anyway---most of the time I won't collect cleaned coins but when it gets this rare and when the price was what it was I knew I wanted it.
Heck I could crack it out and put it in my set like the last owner did.

Most of the time I would agree---but on some coins I would most strongly disagree--such as a 1913 V Nickel---or such thing as a 1909-S VDB.
Some coins as long as you like them and as long as the cleaning isn't that bad can be had for a lower price and be a keeper for along time!

Speedy

 

i somewhat disagreew with that , Even those "RARE" type coins that are cleaned and or whizzed are still worth grabbing if you can in deed get a good price for them. becuase they are still rare. The more commen a coin is, is another story. Granted ones whizzed or cleaned very harshly and the other is in about as low a condition to own. They are still nice to have if you didnt get porket on the price.

I should add IM NOT A FAN OF WHIZZED COINS at all. I own one and i only own it becuase i got it very fair price. I say good find if yo didnt pay much.

Edited just to fix your quote thingy---it didn't quote right and so it looked funny!

 

16 D - G-4
42/1 F-12 details but cleaned
Still nice if the price was right.
I would crack them out and put them in an album where they belong.

 

But, at least this way you have certificates that they are genuine.
Someday, when you (or your heirs) go to sell them at least they'll have proof that they are genuine.

 

Well I'm pretty sure that if they don't get cracked out they will go to NGC.
I'm quite sure that the 16D is going to NGC next time I send off a shippment.

Speedy

 

Speedy:
Why not send the slab to NGC, for a crossover. They have been pretty picky lately.
I have a no question G-4 1896 S Barber quarter, with a touch of wear into the reverse letters, which all grading guides say = G-4.
They sent it back as an AG-3!

 

I may do that---my 1909-S VDB is also in a PCI slab (one of the OLD PCI slabs) and would cross over without any problem.
If I send in a cross over I'll send it through my dealer---but if I crack it out I'll send it myself!...I know how to send raw coins to NGC but am not sure how to send in slabbed coins for cross over...has anyone here done that and can you tell me how?

Speedy

 

Well I went to NGC's site and found out to send a coin to cross over but they won't let me put a min. grade higher than the one that is on the slab.
So in other words I would have to put that they can cross it over even at the grade PCI graded it at---I would much rather keep it in the PCI holder then.
Maybe someday if I have a larger shippment I'll still send it in.

Speedy

 

Oh great this is where you guys say a bunch of Number letters and i am still trying to memeorize them

Aviva

 

Good= G-4 or G-6
Very Good= VG-8 or VG-10
Fine= F-12, F-15
Very Fine= VF-20, VF-25, VF-30, VF-35
Extra (or Extrememly) fine= XF-40, XF-45
Almost Uncirculated: AU-50, AU-53, AU-55, AU-58 (an uncirculated coin with just a bit of rub).
Uncirculated: from MS-60 (That's Mint state) to MS-70 = Perfection.

 

I'll post the grades that PCI gave these coins tonight---I would love to have more of ya'll guess----you aren't going to get charged $$ if you get it wrong

Speedy

 

16-D: FR-2 or AG-3
42/41: Details VF-25, net F-20, cleaned.

 

Whizzed coins are great. You don't have to pay more than bullion price, unless it's a key. I only have one, but got it at a great price.

For the 16 D I agree with most posters, G4 and no better. Rims worn on any 20th century coin cannot grade higher than G-4 in my book. It's possible a high AG-3.

The 42 Merc, nice coin, High Fine to low Very Fine. I do not have my grading books for an exact grade. I missed the cleaning until it was pointed out. Nice catch.

There should be a section for grading coins. This is cool.

Delawarejones