Is this coin really what it is claimed to be? Help with ID.

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by ValiantKnight, May 5, 2013.

  1. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    This coin is being described as Merovingian but I haven't found anything similar while searching online, so now I'm hoping you all can help me out here with this coin if it really is Merovingian or not, thanks.

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    1.5 grams, 11 mm wide
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    ???? Sorry VK
     
  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hi Jango ... sorry dude, but unfortunately I have zero-skilz in this era .......

    => oh, but at least your thread prodded me into looking up the time-period associated with your cool coin (thanks for making me go look-up something!! ... yop, "dog-poop" has dominated my weekend, so this was a refreshing break ... thanks mang!!)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty

    :D
     
  5. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Merovingian bronzes are exceedingly rare. I haven't seen many, but the ones I have look very different from this piece. Do you have it in hand yet?
     
  6. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I havent bought it yet, so its not in hand.
     
  7. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

  8. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Thanks windchild. If only it was a 100% match though... I still see some differences between this one and #35 in the link.

    Anyone have anymore ideas?
     
  9. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    Look up Sigebert III..

    Possible ruler (very similar to gold pieces)
     
  10. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    If you guys know little - then I know less. Sorry. Good luck with the coin.

    I would like to learn as much as I can about these coins. I have never knowingly seen one for sale.
     
  11. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Namely that 35 is a gold tremissis and yours appears to be bronze! Particular designs were widely used in Merovingian coinage, and a type match could only nail it down to a very broad region or time period.

    And a FYI for all, most Merovingian pieces were not struck in the name of the monarch. It rather clearly demonstrates how loosely consolidated their kingdom was!. The coins do routinely bear the name of the village or moneyer, though.
     
  12. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Yes, that, and their bad habit of many German tribes of always splitting up the empire amongst sons when a king died pretty much doomed their kingdom. Every time a king died you would have a couple of decades of bloody civil war until only once king had once again reunited the kingdom, just in time for him to die and start it all over again.
     
  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    merowhatian? no idea, but thanks for the good ol wikipedia link stevex.

    whatever that thing is, it is interesting.
     
  14. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Id feel more confident if I was able to find even a very similar match. Since this coin cant be determined for sure if its Merovingian or not, that fact would always nag me if I had this coin in my collection, so I wont be going for it. Would rather pay more for one that I know what it is, than buy a mysterious coin being labeled as something, and with which I have doubts about.
     
  15. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone for the help/comments.
     
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