Bought 23 tokens today - all in great condition

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mlgdave, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. mlgdave

    mlgdave Member

    I have the following 23 tokens
    1. 1794 Broas Pie (has a mushed over edge over some of the denticles)
    2. Aschermann & Co cigars
    3. In Unitate - least valuable ($3.00?)
    4. 1863 our Army
    5. J. Mckain Grocer Mount
    6. 1863 - Must Shall Preserved (doesnt have the "be" in it)
    7. 1863 Our Navy (i would say UNC)
    8. 1863 - First in war, first in peace
    9. 1863 - Money makes the mare Go
    10. Knickerbocker - Good for 1 cent
    11. 1863 - Army & Navy (unc)
    12. 1863 - Thomas White 13 & 14 Abattoir Place
    13. 1864 C. Anderson Dealer in Groceries (I think is CF)
    14. D. B. Packard Hardware & Iron
    15. L. H. randall Wholesale and retail grocer
    16. in the year 1840 - Gen W. H. Harrison
    17. Abolish Slavery
    18. I take the responsibility (with a really odd edge, offset?)
    19. Foster & Parry - Dealers in Stoves
    20. 1733 Sans Changer (poor condition)
    21. 1837 H. Crossman - Manufatcurer 92 1/2
    22. 1837 Phalons New and Splendid style of hair cutting
    23. 1863 Trade and commerce (I think its CF)

    here are pictures of a couple!
    DSCN6712.jpg DSCN6713.jpg DSCN6714.jpg DSCN6715.jpg DSCN6716.jpg

    Any thoughts or input would be great!

    mlgdave
     
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  3. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    This sounds like an Isle of Man halfpenny from that year, there should be an eagle and a cap with a baby in it - the crest of the Stanley family. Those are really more "coin" than tokens as they were officially issued by the Manx governing authority.
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'd like to see pics of them all, if you get a chance.
     
  5. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Your pictures seem over exposed? It's hard to see the detail on them.
     
  6. mlgdave

    mlgdave Member

    Yea I just figured out yesterday some better white settings, I will post pictures of them all when I get a chance

    mlgdave
     
  7. mlgdave

    mlgdave Member

    Heres some pictures. I will treat these with Verdi-care in the next few days (or should I not do that with CW tokens?)
    DSCN6780.jpg DSCN6782.jpg DSCN6784.jpg DSCN6785.jpg DSCN6786.jpg
     
  8. mlgdave

    mlgdave Member

  9. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    these are cool.
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Nice group of tokens.
     
  11. Revi

    Revi Mildly numismatic

    Wow! Nice tokens. I like the US tokens, but they are a bit pricey. I have been buying a lot of Canadian ones though.
     
  12. cwtokenman

    cwtokenman Coin Hoarder

    Sounds like a nice group of tokens. I suspect the Broas Pie token is another Civil War token, and not from 1794. I suspect that D.B. Packard was related to W. & A.J. Packard, also issuers of Hardware & Iron theme Civil War tokens from the Warren/Youngstown area. Mapquest can not find a West Greenville, PA, but Greenville, PA is only about 28 miles from Warren, OH, so the two merchants with the same surname and line of business were not that far apart, so this short bit of history may also apply to your token. I know the Warren, OH area Packard descendants had businesses that evolved into manufacturing the Packard automobile, with the Packard Electric Company remaining in business even today. At one time Packard Electric was a division of General Motors, but was spun off some years ago along with a group of other divisions to form DELPHI. DELPHI is an acronym using the first letter of each of the divisions, with the "P" representing Packard.

    If you like, post photos of each of your tokens, and I will be glad to id them and provide rarity ratings for them. Some of those merchants have some rare varieties.
     
  13. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    According to Jim Forte (postal history), the Post Office at West Greenville operated as follows; that is not to say the town did not continue to exist after its Post Office closed or merged.

    [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]West Greenville, Mercer County (1828-1868)[/FONT]
     
  14. Wow! Really nice group. Congrats! I really like the history behind these. Thanks so much for posting them. :thumb:
     
  15. cwtokenman

    cwtokenman Coin Hoarder

    Thanks Doug,
    West Greenville may have merged with Greenville. At least they are/were in the same county. There is also an East Greenville, PA, but it is several hundred miles further to the east, so I don't see a connection to that city.
     
  16. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Some nice CWTs . Your Thomas White with the pig is an R-7 if I'm not mistaken . If you have active verdigris I highly recommend Verdi-Chem . I used it on a MS Monitor token with a couple small spots of verdigris , and it still looks great . It didn't change the color and the verdigris is gone and hasn't returned .
     
  17. mlgdave

    mlgdave Member

    I have verdi-care, I havent had the time to do anything with these yet, but R7 huh? Very cool if thats the case! I will do some better piks and post them when I can, im buying a new high $ lense for my Nikon d90

    mlgdave
     
  18. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    Nice group of tokens. I'd hold off on the Verdi-Care unless you have active vertigris that requires it. Copper generally doesn't need anything preserve it. Look into picking up a copy of "U.S. Civil War Store Cards" by George and Melvin Fuld, to attribute your tokens.
     
  19. MorganDollarTJ

    MorganDollarTJ Senior Member YN

    i LOVE hard times tokens. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you buy all of them for?
     
  20. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Bill made a good point , like I said in my post but didn't say it boldly enough , the key words were "If you have active verdigris" . If you don't have any verdigris it's best to leave coins alone . Also there are 2 different products one is Verdi-care and the newer one is Verdi-Chem . I'll leave it to Thad to describe the difference .
     
  21. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    Nothing like owning a R7 coin/token. :)
     
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