Bargain 1880 Shield Nickel....looks like it sold once

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mark_h, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I tried to report this auction because of the same pictures and descriptions used in this auction here but I am not sure I did it right. I thought it was funny the first time it was listed with these pictures, but the puppy sold the first time for 676 and the second time it is currently at 26 bucks. I hope they win it at 26 and somebody makes them provide a real coin. I know they won't but wishful thinking. And yes I have read the warnings here about "estatedoctor", so I won't even bid 30 on the coin.
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    What are you saying?
    That the coins are bogus? What do you base this on? The fact that he is selling more than one with the same picture?
    Perhaps it was returned?
     
  4. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I see at least three big red flags
    • The hidden bidder identity
    • The identity of the seller
    • Either a stock photo which doesn't accurately depict the specific coin, or a second sale of the same coin.
    Standing alone, none are conclusive, but . . .
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  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I figured the seller thought they could get more for the same coin - but that is just my opinion. It is the same identical listing 7 days after the first closed. I would say lets check the feed back, but they keep everything private. So just another friendly warning about the seller. Then again the current auction is at 350, so that is a bargain - if it is a real coin. Checking the feedback shows they have been pinged for fraud before. Another fun day in E-bay land. :)
     
  6. I asked the seller why the current nickel looks exactly the same as the old nickel, and he has yet to respond. Geeeeee, I wonder why!

    I stay away from private listings and 1 or 3 day purchases. Since the point of selling on ebay is to make money, and it's a high value item, why not pay the extra few cents to list it for at least 7 days and get top dollar? Geeeeee, I wonder why!
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Winning bid: US $1,043.89 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Sheesh, I hope that the buyer gets the coin.
     
  8. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    feedback

    There is a lot af interesting reading hidden in the feedback. a lot of counterfeit coins, a lot of items that were" lost" in shipping and a lot of relisted items that were fake. There were also a lot of nuetrals and withdrawn feedback. some of the positive feedback was even unflattering. Looks like a good one to stay away from.
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    vipergts2:
    I see what you mean, wow is this seller vicious!

    Buyer leaves a neutral feedback saying: "Well packed super fast delivery,but I had a huge laugh at the 5&dime merchandise"
    and get a neg with:
    WARNING LEAVES NEUTRAL SLANDEROUS FEEDBACK WITH NO COMUNICATION!!!!!!!!
    Follow-up by estatedoctor: BLOCK THIS NASTY PERSON FROM BIDDING.!!!SHE HAS MAJOR ISSUES.ALL BEWARE
    Reply by liza_chaplin: MY previous feedbacks speak truth about me. I do not fear your dishonesty.
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That seller is well known for selling fakes and misrepresented coins. In the case of this 1880 nickel, the pictures are poor but I think the coin is real. The problem is it isn't a Proof like mint state coin that they claim it is. It is most likely a genuine proof coin, and possibly mishandled. The price range it brought is a little onthe high side for an 1880 proof, but a pittance compare to what a business strike would bring. (I believe a for sure business strike in MS-63 recently sold for around $25K.) Adding to the problem is that the proof shields for that era are seldom flashy and often poorly struck. They also used the same dies for proofs and business strikes. Hence it is very difficult to tell proofs and mint state business strikes apart. Certification doesn't help either as the services slab very few MS coins and many of those MS slabs actually hold proof coins.
     
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