1923 peace dollar

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  1. bigbruiser94

    bigbruiser94 Active Member

    What do you think I was thinking maybe MS60 IMG_2366.jpg IMG_0307.jpg
     
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  3. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Looks overdipped to me. MS Details
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    MS-60 is the lowest grade for an uncirculated coin. An MS-60 coin will be UGLY but will show absolutely no signs of circulation wear. It will have lots and lots of contact marks (it will look like it spent some time in a parking lot) and will have greatly diminished luster.
     
  5. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Yup, definitely been cleaned

    Has strong unc details, though :)
     
  6. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Hobo's right. If not for the apparent overdipping it would probably go 63-64.
     
  7. bigbruiser94

    bigbruiser94 Active Member

    How can you tell its dipped is it the yellowish color on the reverse
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    It's lack of luster.......
     
  9. bigbruiser94

    bigbruiser94 Active Member

    I still never really got the luster I read up on it and still don't get it is it the way the light reflects off of it
     
  10. bigbruiser94

    bigbruiser94 Active Member

    Still learning a lot only been doing this little over a year and a half
     
  11. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Kind of.

    Hold an uncirculated coin by the edges and tilt it back and forth letting the light reflect off its surface. You should notice little spokes that appear to spin around the coin like the spokes of a wagon wheel. What you are seeing is 'Cartwheel luster'.
     
  12. bigbruiser94

    bigbruiser94 Active Member

    I don't have any uncirculated coins but I have some proof does it work the same on those
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Luster is created from the flow lines that emanate during the process of minting. If you hold a mint state coin in your hand, and gently rotate and undulate it, you will perceive what is called a 'cartwheel effect'......the light splashing off of the coin will dance about in almost a wheel like fashion. When a coin is over dipped those flow lines are washed away and the dancing beauty also.....
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Oh dear.....Hobo scooped me. :)
     
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I think the coin is both dipped and cleaned. I think I see a bit of rub on it also, so I say AU details.
     
  16. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Not really. Proof dies are polished after every few strikes so flow lines are not allowed to become as established like dies used to strike Business Strike coins.
     
  17. bigbruiser94

    bigbruiser94 Active Member

    IMG_20130419_220549_742.jpg IMG_20130419_220758_326.jpg

    Here are different pictures in a different light with a different camera
     
  18. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Proof coins do not show cartwheel luster. But as an exercise in grading, I routinely grade all of my pocket change before putting it in my change jar. Seems a bit much I know, but grading modern coins is a great way of familiarizing yourself with what a high grade coin should look like. After grading pocket change like that for a while, cleaning and dipping become painfully obvious.
     
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    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

  20. bigbruiser94

    bigbruiser94 Active Member

    IMG_20130419_220549_742.jpg IMG_20130419_220758_326.jpg

    Here is some different pics in a different light with different camera the other pics are with just light from our window
     
  21. bigbruiser94

    bigbruiser94 Active Member

    Sorry didn't mean to post that many pics they weren't showing up so I didn't see the ones that did
     
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