Damaged Morgan Dollar - Not sure what it is...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Steve-o, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. Steve-o

    Steve-o New Member

    I just purchased this Morgan Dollar and it has some sort of damage. I've taken a couple close-ups. Does anybody know what has happened to it? Also, if it were to grade at MS64 without the damage, hom much would it drop based on this mark?

    Thanks,
    Steve
     

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Need a shot of the reverse.......
     
  4. Steve-o

    Steve-o New Member

    Reverse pic

    Here is a shot of the reverse.
     

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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    okay, if that slab says 64, then it may be an AU.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'm inclined to think it's not genuine, but I'm no expert.
     
  7. Steve-o

    Steve-o New Member

    It's not graded/slabbed. That's just a plastic holder. I'm thinking about sending it off, but wanted some opinions on how much it might be docked because of the damage. MS64 was my guess, not taking the damage into consideration.
     
  8. Rassi

    Rassi #GoCubs #FlyTheW #WeAreGood

    Probably wouldn't grade with that damage...
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That's pretty much a certainty.
     
  10. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    If it's real, It's probably worth under $30. Do you mind telling us what you paid for the coin?
     
  11. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

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    This kind of damage is common on modern Chinese fakes. Probably because of beaten, all messed up dies they use. If this coin got no luster, as it seems from these photos, its authenticity is rather questionable.
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Looks like it could be a planchet flaw. Can't really tell from the images.
     
  13. Steve-o

    Steve-o New Member

    Thanks for your help. I'm trying to put together an Ngc graded complete set... 3coins from complete. I paid about $1800 for this. Dealer called it a planchet flaw. Do you think they'll slab it if I send it in (ms)? The dealer will take it back otherwise.
     
  14. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    But would sell on eBay for $60. :D
     
  15. Steve-o

    Steve-o New Member

    Plenty of swollen heads on here... Maybe not the right forum for a guy like me. Just looking for "help". You're a cutie though.
     
  16. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    A little touchy are we? Swollen head? It was a joke on eBay because of how over priced some coins go for. It wasn't a dig on you or your coin. And you got the "help" you asked for. Try not to take the internet so seriously. A sense of humor does wonders for the soul.
     
  17. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen


    Well, if it is real, and that's a planchet flaw, $1800.00 probably wasn't too bad a price. If it doesn't grade, it still would carry a premium, as this date is tough to find in MS. I've seen 63s go for $3,000 plus. I assume you were joking about the $30.
     
  18. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    For $1800 I'd be returning that coin in a hurry
     
  19. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    A coin of that magnitude should already be in a top tier slab if it was going to slab... Especially after being in a dealers inventory... This tells me that it probably won't holder as problem free... Someone has to have tried already.
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Can't tell from images if it would slab as problem free, and I won't grade a coin higher than AU from images, especially computer images.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I agree, it could be a planchet flaw. But even a planchet flaw, when severe enough, is cause for a coin to be determined a problem coin. And that one is pretty severe. Thus my opinion.
     
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