1884 o grade

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  1. kelleef

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  3. cpm9ball

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    I see you're starting to get the hang of getting the coin positioned so that it will be in an upright position when you snap the pic. You might want to get yourself a photo program so that you can crop and resize your photos. Photoscape is a free download. I don't use it, but others here have reported good success with it. Photoscape does a lot more than just crop & resize.

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  4. kelleef

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  5. silverfool

    silverfool Active Member

    so I'll bite, looks like a good ms64, might 65 but for the "arrow' mark n the reverse
     
  6. Lucky Cuss

    Lucky Cuss Cobrador de Plata

    Seems to have a nice, full strike for a New Orleans. NGC hasn't always given credit for that, but PCGS might. Appears to have good luster with just a hint of toning. Photos aren't quite good enough to be sure, but it doesn't look to have too much going on in the way of bagmarks. MS-64 certainly isn't out of the question, and it might surprise to the upside from there.
     
  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Looks like a cleaned coin to me. MS details.
     
  8. Lucky Cuss

    Lucky Cuss Cobrador de Plata

    Are you going to submit it? If so, please post the results for us all to see.
     
  9. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    assuming that it is a clean coin, I would go with MS-64
     
  10. kelleef

    kelleef Member

    I have a few I'm gonna send in when I get the funds one is my 1992 d close am
     
  11. texmech

    texmech Wanna be coin collector

    Big diff in price between a 64 and 65. Kind of hard to tell from that pic. Would need to see it in hand. None the less a nice Morgan.
     
  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    The obverse really does show very obvious hairlines and pits from a polishing. It is a cleaned coin, at least from those photos. Also, it has luster breaks--typical raw Morgan of that date and value that has been cleaned to look as if it were MS--had it not been cleaned, it might have been a 63 or 64, but not anymore, as it will come back in a details slab.
     
  13. texmech

    texmech Wanna be coin collector

    I just don't see the cleaning, but I am not an expert on knowing when a coin has been cleaned. From what little I do know I don't see signs of a "clean", but you explanation sounds very convincing.
     
  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I am not David Bowers, but I do know a lot about Morgans over the years. It looks from those pictures to have been cleaned. Lots of common date Morgans are either cleaned, or overdipped to the point of destroying luster. It was the thing to do with them years ago, and if they are bright and shiny, you can bet with almost 90% certainty that a coin that old and made of silver was at the very least, dipped. That one shows evidence to my eye of having been rubbed or polished--the hairlines are a giveaway. Dealers have thousands of common date cleaned Morgans, that unsuspecting customers buy as MS, but in actuality, had they been left toned, they would still be MS, and not mechanically altered by cleaning. BE suspicious of MOST bright, shiny raw common date Morgans that have that bright, but lusterless look--it hides the bag marks that true uncirculated Morgans normally have. Below is the picture of the same date in a gem grade coin--note the NATURAL luster, and although there are bag marks, there are no hairlines. Bet that this one is a true MS 64-65 (graded as a 65), and was dipped many years ago, and is retoning. Compare this to your coin:

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  15. kelleef

    kelleef Member

    If it still in ms condition I happy cause I got it for melt
     
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