eBay is now banning Cuban coins

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Hiddendragon, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Nice design! I just wonder what this "Millenium Sancti Iacobi" refers to ... St. James is said to have died (well, been killed) around the year 50. The city of Santiago de Cuba was founded in 1515, as the coin says too. Santiago de Compostela (in Galicia, Spain) is quite a bit older than 1,000 years, so -- I'm stumped. 1993 was a "holy year" there (Ano Santo Xacobeo) but why a millenium? Hmm.

    Christian
     
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  3. bkozak33

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  4. SPP Ottawa

    SPP Ottawa Numismatist

    Leftovers of the Iron Curtain, The Helms-Burton Act...

    I have an eBay.ca account and being in Canada, technically, such restrictions should not apply to my Cuban coin listings... but I if I list with international shipping (including the US), would this listing get yanked?

    Time for an experiment...
     
  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

  6. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    we live in such exciting times
     
  7. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    This is a load of crap. Sanctions are against the country, with trade restrictions regarding import and export to/out the country itself. What is that got to do with the selling or buying Cuban coinage? The seller or buyer of these coins can be from anyplace in the world including US. If the coin is bought or sold outside Cuba, how would this fall under sanction restrictions since the owner is not Cuban/in Cuba.
     
  8. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    This is my point too. People in Cuba and the Cuban government do not in any way benefit by people in the U.S. buying and selling obsolete Cuban coins. That's the whole purpose of an embargo - to punish the country in question.

    As to their still being other Cuban coins listed, I can't explain it, but here's what happened with me: I had maybe three Cuban coins listed. Someone purchased one with buy it now, but then I realized I had it mislabeled, so I asked him if he still wanted it and he said no. Then I tried to relist and got that message. My other two are still listed. When I saw people posting about it on the eBay discussion board, they said this policy started April 9.
     
  9. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    The US minted Cuban coins up to 1953 (the peso, I think) before Cuban got involved in the cold war?
     
  10. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    The horse rider is Saint James born circa 6BC (this is a millenial 2000th anniversary of his birth). He is a very important figure is Spanish culture and religious celebration. The City of Santiago is clearly listed as it being the 478th Anniversary of it's founding on the coin reverse, which fits your 1515 + 478 = 1993 deduction.
     
  11. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Oh, I see. Well, I live in Europe, and here it would be difficult to not know about Santiago, the Way of St. James, etc. ;) I just had no idea that "millenium" meant two milleniums on that coin. Thanks, and that is definitely a nice design!

    Christian
     
  12. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    any thing that was here before the law should be fine like cigars ect
     
  13. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    Stupid rule, I wonder if the U.S. govt called them up and politely asked them to enforce this:rollling:

    Someone may have flagged your listing as well, they might not actively search these, but will pull them when flagged by a user.
     
  14. enochian

    enochian silver eater

    i want one
     
  15. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Try it out. ;) On one hand, people here in the European Union, for example, with an eBay account have a contract with eBay Europe S.à r.l. in Luxembourg, not with eBay, Inc. in the US. Now eBay claims that, when it comes to US embargos, even eBay companies outside the US (including PayPal Europe, also in LU) have to comply. That is a violation of EU law according to a couple of legal experts here, but who would take eBay to court? The obvious solution is to buy from a dealer/platform that does not restrict its customers that way. Fortunately there are quite a few ...

    Christian
     
  16. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    I suspect eBay is simply confused. There is a trade embargo in effect but once items are in the country I don't believe they are illegal. If you have something like cigars they will come after you to find the source but coins travel too freely to track like this. The cigars themselves aren't illegal, merely the importation. Most Cuban coins appear to come in through Canada.
     
  17. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    No, it wasn't flagged. That message pops up when you try to create a new listing.
     
  18. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

  19. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

  20. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    Yeah, ask Microsoft. They just paid a gazillion dollar fine because they did "something" the EU didn't like. Not to worry, the EU will be history in 5 years.
     
  21. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Won't comment on your political wishes, but I suppose that US companies who not only do business in the EU but even have local companies here will be familiar with the laws that apply here. Whether they try to get around them or not is a different issue ...

    Christian
     
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