1983 p dr with rim cud/obverse

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  1. frankstony

    frankstony New Member

    Cherrypicking and found this, I found a 1971 P DDO also about a week ago.:) 1983 P DR Rim CUD Front.jpg 1983 P DR RimCud Back.jpg 1983 P DR CUD.jpg 1983 P DR States.jpg 1983 P DR STEPS.jpg
     
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  3. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    That is machine doubling, not a doubled die. Notice how it cuts into the devices.
    The obverse shows a die crack, not a rim cud. A cud would show more vertical displacement.
    1971 was notorious for having machine doubling as well.
    Keep up the hunt!
     
  4. frankstony

    frankstony New Member

    The A in states is what made me think it was doubling
     
  5. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    The crack doesn't quite make it from rim to rim so it isn't a retained cud either, correct non cents?
     
  6. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    You can see the "cutting in" effect best on the A. It is machine doubling, which was common on the reverse that year.
    As for the die crack, I am not an expert on the correct terminology regarding cracks connected to the rim, etc. Retained cuds show vertical displacement, but this appears to be a minor crack, which may have later developed into a retained cud and then a cud.
    Keep up the hunt!
     
  7. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    That's what I thought. Just making sure I am learning things correctly. Thanks!
     
  8. frankstony

    frankstony New Member

    Is this a misaligned die error?
     
  9. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Looks slightly misaligned on the obverse, Tony. Not too sure. There is some die deterioration as well that I am seeing.
     
  10. frankstony

    frankstony New Member

    Oh, yeah this cent is junk, but the steps and the upward features on the obverse is what caught my eye. I just need to know what to call it?
     
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