I think I got swindled

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Kirkuleez, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I'm a big believer of going with your gut. If that's what it is saying...then I wouldn't even risk it. I would just return it. Based on the images it's at least questionable...you have a better knowledge than I and you have it in hand.
     
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  3. 2schnauzers2luv

    2schnauzers2luv Junior Member

    Let us know how this all turns out. I hope it works out for the best.
     
  4. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    1st
    eBay 2 thing I do is only bid or buy a tpg graded coin.
    2nd is to make sure @ Ngc+Pcgs the number match at
    Ngc or Pcgs .
    I hope every thing work out your way. Remember that there a page on ebay that
    will explains all the rules. Buyer have more power than the seller
    since 2010 rule change.
    Seller can say Not refunds but that just wasted words!!!
    Pay Pal+eBay is 1 company since 2010.

    That why I do not sell any more on eBay seller have no rights..
    Buyer have them all.
     
  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    If I'd done that I would have been higher in the standings with 'March Madness'..........:(
     
  6. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I realize that the buyer has all of the rights in general, but if I make a bid, I try to honor it. That is why I am giving the seller the option. If they don't agree to let me crack it, I will just send it back. And when they issue a refund to me, they will get positive feedback.

    My problem with buying only NGC, PCGS or ANACS coins on ebay is that you will almost always overpay for premium coins especially at the BIN prices.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    And honorable indeed are you Kirk. Your offer is most honorable and if the seller declines, so be it. Nothing lost. Send the purchase packing back from whence it came.......
     
  8. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Keep us posted on what happens with the seller and cracking it.
     
  9. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Man I want to crack it. If for nothing else, I would love to expose scams, but I will wait patiently for their reply.

    If I were them, I would say to just send it back to save the embarassment.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If you know that, then why do you still use ebay ?
     
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    You are more generous than I. I would have either proposed sending it back, or cracking the slab to determine if its method of manufacture and if there is any issues with it. If they didn't want you to crack it, they would get the coin back. I wouldn't have offered up the $25 personally.
     
  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I tend to agree with you--it does look like a nice business strike, and not a proof. As has been said, the basement slab means absolutely nothing, so consider it a raw coin and act accordingly, based on your instincts. It is a very pretty coin, whatever it is, but I doubt it is a proof just looking at it. Very hard to say.
     
  13. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I believe that I have an 1884 NGC PF64 which has weak star(s) and doubling at the date. I will look for a photo.

    Sorry I did not see this thread until today.
     
  14. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    It looks like a business strike to me.

    I would be curious to see this. I can't find one example of an 1884 proof nickel where the stars are so weakly struck. I'm not saying they don't exist though.
     
  15. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Too many Liberty nickels & not enough photographs

    Here is an 1886 in PF64 which has weak stars. I believe that I bought it in 2005. I will keep looking for a proof 1884 with weak stars.
     

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  16. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    as I have stated, this is far from my area of expertise, but isn't there something about the dentils being more square on these early proof issue nickels and cents?

    Or is it something I'm imagining?
     
  17. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    notice the mirror fields... something absent from kirk's coin
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Because that's where the coins are?
     
  19. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I got a message from the seller today saying that they would prefer that I just return the coin. And would not let me crack the slab. There was no way that I wasn't going to crack it and not know what it was, so I put it in a vice and gave it a little squeeze. It cleanly popped open and guess what I found...an AU-58 business strike. Needless to say, it is getting returned back in the slab with a new sonic seal holding it together.

    The hunt continues for my 1884.
     
  20. Pi man

    Pi man Well-Known Member

    Way to go. ;) You just had to know, didn't ya!
    Good luck on the continued hunt!
     
  21. cremebrule

    cremebrule Active Member

    Are you going to leave negative, or at least neutral feedback letting people know what kind of a seller this person is?
     
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