Costly mistake...

For moderns like these, hairlines won't reduce the grade. It would relegate them to a Details - Improper Cleaning.

Perhaps my previous question wasn't clear enough. Was your 3rd check AFTER you put the coins in the flips to make sure that you didn't put the wrong coin in by mistake?

Chris

 

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When I checked them for third time, all of them already in flip from second check up with magnify.

I am curious, the picture that I posted in this thread. Does the damage showed on high point areas define as hairlines or scratches?

 

Your word against theirs. Sad.........

 

Hairlines = Improper Cleaning
Scratches = Damage

Chris

 

i know the feeling , I sent some Pres dollars to NGC a few years ago and I felt the coins I sent in got a tick lower grade. so I even bought better grades and I felt that they should of been that or better. I had many examples to look thru and see what grades are what. My own thought is that NGC just gives out higher grades to more prominent customers. So this was my last to NGC and I've done a few of them.

 

Simple.

Take an IKE and slide it across the table, counter top, anything you want.

It will not leave marks like that.

 

Did I say that there was anything wrong with it? If this is how he wants to collect or [FONT=&amp]enjoy[/FONT] his hobby, it is fine by me. My earlier post, other than the initial question - which was clearly was not an actual question, but more of a stunned statement - was honest and sincere. I am not a freshman shooting from the hip here, and after scanning his results, I felt bad, but I am not going to comfort with excuses, nor will I sugar coat when unnecessary. It is not shipping damage or NGC that is the cause of what looks to be a substantial percentage of these coins not grading out as he had hoped.

 

Based on what you've told us it can't happen. You secured them very well and as NGC recommended. NGC would never risk their reputation by allowing coins to be damaged like that. I can't even think of a situation where they could cause that kind of damage. Even if the coins moved during shipping; they're mylar flips and not sandpaper.

Either you're not telling us something or you packaged the wrong coins. Sorry to be so blunt but that's the only two logical conclusions I can arrive at based on the presented evidence.

 

Alright, no problem. Thank you for your feedback. As I said, "It's costly mistake". I will move on and continue trying. I will post next thread on some coins from NGC with nice toned coins.

 

I'm new and haven't submitted anything to be graded yet. I don't know 3rd party grading shipping requirements either, but wouldn't a 2x2 be better to ship a coin in rather than a flip? A lot less room in a 2x2 for a coin to move, no?

 

Horsehockey!

Chris

 

For one thing, there is a greater risk of damage from the staples on 2x2's than there would be for flips with rubberbands around them. It is also more time-consuming removing a coin from a 2x2, and since thousands of coins are processed each week, the added time means lower productivity.

Chris

 

when I remove coins from 2x2's that are stapled together, there is absolutely no possible way for them to get damaged by the staples.

NONE!

There used to be, and I may have damaged some in the process but.............. not since I was told how to do it!

Most folks try to tear the 2x2 open which in turn exposes those ugly coin ruining staples. While both hands are on the 2x2 edges, the coin is free to fall or move anywhere!

The correct method is to simply forget about saving the 2x2 and instead puncture the plasticine cello. Then bend the 2x2 on the puncture mark and voila! The cello tears exposing the coin which is then easily listed from the torn 2x2.

Ahh but back to the subject of Clutchy's question,

TPG will not accept coins submitted in 2x2's. Only Flips.

AND, as I stated earlier, plastic flips cannot damage a CnClad coin.

Flips made of 400 Grit Sandpaper might, but certainly not plastic.

 

Good to know. But shipping a coin in a loose flip makes me nervous. Especially across the country. Could you tape the flip to a piece of cardboard, on both sides of the coin, or is rubberbanded is mandatory?

Note* I like making up words sometimes. Like "rubberbanded"

 

Sorry dear fellow, it's been 'branded' way ahead of you.......


[video=youtube;kKbADFJOCkU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKbADFJOCkU[/video]

 

I doubt the Ike damage was caused by transportation or the TPG. I wasn't there when it was submitted so I don't know what may have happened.

http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=1558&

http://www.money.org/numismatic-events/summer-seminar.aspx

 

I put my flips in a Saf-T-Mailer. Usually 5 to a #10 envelope mailer. I then ruber band these together and mark them by submission number.

I've never had a problem although on some occasions, I could have sworn I did, since like Alspride, I would have never submitted a coin in that condition or at the very least would have noticed it.

But then, I know that I goofed up and thats all there is to it.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree since it's the "grit" and static electric dust that can accumulate on the plastic slides which can cause scratching.

Plastic is soft. Coin Silver and CnCladding is hard.