1893 CC Morgan. Real or fake?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by bekiz, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. bekiz

    bekiz Member

    Hello,
    Spotted it on the auction. Help with ID, please.
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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I say fake. The date looks altered
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Neither the date nor the mintmark look authentic.

    Chris
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Total fake... It's all wrong.

    Is that Chinese written on the 2x2???
     
  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I say altered Date . I didn't check beyond the date because the date is so off .
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Nope! It's fake, not altered, and there were only two mintmarks used and neither one of them looks like this.

    http://www.vamworld.com/1893-CC+Reverses

    Chris
     
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  9. bekiz

    bekiz Member

    THANK YOU!!!





    it's Japanese.
    but considering the coing is fake - the seller is of Chinese origin
     
  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is not even a good fake. Low quality Chinese fake. Some of them are good, where collectors are actually fooled. This is not one of them.
     
  11. petro89

    petro89 Member

    The date, MM, stars and rim all look wrong
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    You're right Chris , but like I said I didn't even look at the coin or MM , after looking at the date I knew it wasn't good , but looking further it's a complete fake .
     
  13. Raymond Beracha

    Raymond Beracha Active Member

    Would you mind providing more details about where the listing was? The Japanese writing is very "innocent" as if the person who labeled it did not know it was fake.

    It just says: US Morgan Dollar 1893 CC.

    These things usually say 'rare' or 'wow' or have some silly price or other eye catching phrase written on them.
     
  14. Scott Ross

    Scott Ross Member

    I'm a N00B, and I immediately saw something "wrong" with this coin.
     
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    1893cc is a very good date for CC dollars, and is often faked. My feeling on ALL CC dollars is, unless you know Morgans, don't even consider raw ones. The slab does add to the acquisition cost, but at least you have authenticity confirmed. Only experienced collectors should consider raw Morgans of any good dates--look at the PCGS price guide to get an idea of good dates, if you don't know them--it is free online:


    http://www.pcgs.com/Prices/PriceGuideDetail.aspx?MS=1&PR=1&SP=1&c=744&title=Morgan+Dollar
     
  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I bought this one raw at the Scotsman Auction table at the FUN Show about 2008, but I have no doubt that it is authentic. It has a couple of scratches on the obverse and would have only graded F12 or so, but it is the year my maternal grandmother was born and I believe that it has a cud between 8 & 9 o'clock.

    Chris
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  17. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Terrible quality counterfeit.
     
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