Trajan Decius

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by COINnoisseur, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. COINnoisseur

    COINnoisseur Professional Amateur

    Hey Everyone, I found this coin at the bottom of a plastic storage bin in one of my closets. I received this as a gift and I guess it has been sitting where I found it since then. It was in a velvet bag with a scrap of paper that read "Roman Imperial Trajan Decius 249-251 AD" I'm not familiar with ancient coins and haven't been able to find any images of this coin online. I don't have a scale to weigh it but it is the size of a dime and feels twice as heavy. I don't know if this is the real deal or a reproduction. Any help on it's authenticity and it's history would be appreciated. The images I attached are scans. Thanks everyone.


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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Its fake, sorry.
     
  4. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    A fairly decent looking fake as well. It might have fooled many people. It looks fake to me as well, but let others chime in about the coin.
     
  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummmm, a fairly decent fake is kinda like a cute transvestite!!

    => I certainly ain't puttin' my money down!!!
     
  6. Rudi Smits

    Rudi Smits Member

    Yup, modern fake from Bulgaria.
     
  7. COINnoisseur

    COINnoisseur Professional Amateur

    thanks for the info everyone, the coin is in very good condition, all the features are high and sharp so I figured it was a copy.
     
  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Here is my coin of the real type its imitating.

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    Trajan Decius (249 - 251 A.D.)
    AR Antoninianus
    O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    R: GENIVS EXERC ILLVRICIANI, Genius of the Army of Illyricum standing left holding patera and corucopia, standard to right.
    Rome
    23mm
    4.37g
    RIC 16c RSC 49
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I might as well pile on. Fake!
     
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Most of Slavei's fakes copy rare coins. This is a very rare coin. The type is common enough as an antoninianus as shown by Mat but denarii of emperors after Gordian III are rare. I really hope all noticed that this one has no radiate crown so it is a denarius. The Slavei series never struck me as deceptive and he claimed that they were made as replicas rather than to fool people. I bought mine for $4 each which seemed like plenty at the time but as time goes on and the things are toning naturally, some of them seem to be fooling more people. Few of this series copy coins costing less than $1000 and all were issued in mint condition. Now we see them intentionally distressed and sold as low grade rarities. Those buying expensive coins need to be careful; those buying cheap coins at least need to pay attention to the obvious.
     
  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Huh, that's very interesting ... I just checked my list and you're absolutely correct (once again)

    => my last denarius was Maximinus I (Thrax), which was just prior to Gordian III ... and then I only have antoninianii after that

    ... thanks for that interesting observation
     
  12. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    By coincidence, I picked up this one last week among some odds and ends at a local auction. Just for your interest.

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  13. Rudi Smits

    Rudi Smits Member

    Hi Doug, I had some of these Slavey coins in the past (Postumus and so). They are indeed quite impressive, but u have to be a dodo to buy them as genuine roman coins... I found mine for 50 - 300$, and there are specific collectors for these kind of coins (or medals), same as for the famous Paduan medals... I'll check my files to see if I still some Slavey coin pics...
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I understand that 3/4 of the coins attributed to Slavey are actually products of others but the name was attached to Bulgarian fakes. I have none that he signed (I believe they are mostly Greek). We still see the same ones over and over making me suspect that there are those out there making fakes of the fakes.
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